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[Firewalker]

Even the SIA line says below them "Speaker Outputs" and in specifications 1 Channel.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

A terminal is an output. They are one in the same. Hence "Output Terminal"

Anybody who has designed or repaired amplifiers would not consider multiple terminals to be multiple outputs. Clearly a mono amp has a single output, regardless of how many terminals it has.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Even the SIA line says below them "Speaker Outputs" and in specifications 1 Channel.

Not that means anything, but it actually says "Speaker Output" (singular) below the (multiple) "Output Terminals."

 

[Firewalker]

You say that and yet I've seen a couple youtube videos from people who work in the industry who call them outputs as well. Not too mention the companies themselves but hey w/e I guess all those people who actually work in the industry are wrong. They call them terminals and outputs.

 

[metalheadjoe 10+ year member]

I agree terminals aren't the same as outputs, but you're not going to convince me that's what rob meant. He said they're not wired internally, which means he didn't know the two sets of terminals are the same output.

 

[SlugButter]

Google can make anyone look like an expert. It’s not hard to tell who these people are as you have online conversations with them. That’s how Rob collects data. He reads something that makes his v@gina hurt then he looks up facts on the net to argue about it. It must be miserable to learn every fact you know based on anger and conflict over internet arguments.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Anybody who has designed or repaired amplifiers would not consider multiple terminals to be multiple outputs. Clearly a mono amp has a single output, regardless of how many terminals it has.

The nomenclature used by amplifier manufacturers, the people who designed and built these amplifiers, have referred to these terminals as "multiple outputs" "multiple terminals" "output terminals" and such. Of course you are right though, we do know a mono amp is 1 final channel and sometimes will have multiple terminals for that channel.

I have seen mono amplifiers that you have to bridge externally though.

 

[Firewalker]

Doesn't matter what any of us say, it wouldn't matter if any car audio company owner or designer showed up and said exactly what all of us are saying. He would still say they are wrong no matter what.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

You say that and yet I've seen a couple youtube videos from people who work in the industry who call them outputs as well. Not too mention the companies themselves but hey w/e I guess all those people who actually work in the industry are wrong. They call them terminals and outputs.

I did warranty repair for years.

Any jacka$$ can start a youtube channel, claim expertise in any industry and say whatever the fudge they want. That doesn't mean that mono amplifiers have multiple outputs. Multiple outputs would mean the amp ceased to be mono. Mono amps have multiple terminals not multiple outputs.

I'd like to see a credible amp company that claims their mono amps have multiple outputs.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Seriously, stfu. You're stupid.

My MONO amplifier. Outputs A and B with Positive and Negative terminals for both outputs. Idiot.

That’s not multiple outputs, you ignorant fool. It’s a terminal block that duplicates the same mono output.

A mono amp has only one output. No matter how many terminals you connect to that output, the amp will only play a mono signal at a given wattage for a given load.

This has been proved, yet you still insist your contrary feelings are fact.

 

[metalheadjoe 10+ year member]

I did warranty repair for years.

Any jacka$$ can start a youtube channel, claim expertise in any industry and say whatever the fudge they want. That doesn't mean that mono amplifiers have multiple outputs. Multiple outputs would mean the amp ceased to be mono. Mono amps have multiple terminals not multiple outputs.

I'd like to see a credible amp company that claims their mono amps have multiple outputs.

Rob did not mention terminals in his quote.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Doesn't matter what any of us say, it wouldn't matter if any car audio company owner or designer showed up and said exactly what all of us are saying. He would still say they are wrong no matter what.

Provide the proof. Show me where an audio circuit designer says a mono amp has multiple outputs from the amplifier stage.

I’ll wait.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I agree terminals aren't the same as outputs, but you're not going to convince me that's what rob meant. He said they're not wired internally, which means he didn't know the two sets of terminals are the same output.

I wasn't involved in the original conversation/thread. Rod's quote in Spooky's signature makes no sense to me. Was it poor wording, a response to "stupid" question? Was it one of those "newbie thinks he's going to reinvent car audio" threads?

All I know is adding output terminals to an amp doesn't add outputs to the amp.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Rob did not mention terminals in his quote.

I know. Rob's quote makes no sense.
However, as Rob has defended himself
some posters are claiming/implying multiple output terminals is the same as multiple outputs.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I did warranty repair for years.

Any jacka$$ can start a youtube channel, claim expertise in any industry and say whatever the fudge they want. That doesn't mean that mono amplifiers have multiple outputs. Multiple outputs would mean the amp ceased to be mono. Mono amps have multiple terminals not multiple outputs.

I'd like to see a credible amp company that claims their mono amps have multiple outputs.

It's just terminology. Many will use general or ambiguous terms just to simplify the meaning. We all should know what they mean and not necessarily take them literally. I know 100% that my mono amplifier has but one channel. ALL 4 of those terminals go inside the amplifier were the 2 positives are one and the 2 negatives are one. There is nothing wrong or incorrect in calling them outputs. They ARE outputs. They ARE terminals.