Winners only.

[metalheadjoe 10+ year member]

Where's the proof? Like I said, I said, it doesn't make the Dr.'s more money, the hospitals, yes. All conspiracy theories and allegations without proof, just like the election. And, not just one or two rogue Dr.'s. You guys act like Dr.'s have zero morals and would risk their reputation and careers to make somebody else a couple of bucks. It ***** that we live in a conspiracy theory World.

You are nearly the last person on this forum to be whining about unfounded claims. Do articles count for proof or do you only accept memes?

The US is Dramatically Overcounting Coronavirus Deaths

Editor's Note: Timothy Craig Allen, MD, JD, contributed to this column. Over 86,500 people

townhall.com

 

[Clifff150 10+ year member]

Dude where have you been the past year? The doctors don’t make more money but the hospitals do. The hospitals employ the doctors. Do you know how many doctors got laid off during this pandemic because of hospitals shutting down? Label it as covid equals more money for hospitals which keeps the doors open. Do you understand that “simple math”?

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Dude where have you been the past year? The doctors don’t make more money but the hospitals do. The hospitals employ the doctors. Do you know how many doctors got laid off during this pandemic because of hospitals shutting down? Label it as covid equals more money for hospitals which keeps the doors open. Do you understand that “simple math”?

Yep it's really pretty simple. It is a hard pill to swallow. A jab to the gut, or to the arm, with a vaccine. 100's of millions of doses of vaccines isn't profiting someone billions of dollars, you'd be a conspiracy theorist just to suggest that.

You know the Hegelian Dialectic? Problem->Reaction->Solution? There's a playbook to this whole plan. It's not hidden and not a theory, though it is a conspiracy. Who created the virus? Who benefits from the virus? Who makes money from the virus? All you gotta do is follow the trail, and not BS yourself. This virus was created, and someone is benefiting from it. If you haven't noticed, all of society is being economically restructured around us. Somebody wanted that to happen, because the lockdowns are what did 99% of the real life damage, not the virus itself. There were no more deaths in 2020 than 2019, flu and pneumonia were called covid and there is a covid and hospitals were paid to artificially ramp up numbers. If the news didn't tell you about covid, you would've thought this was just a bad flu season. Nothing would've shut down. The lockdowns are the main point of covid 19. That's the reason this happened. Has nothing to do with the virus. You need to understand why governments world wide want to lock their people down, to have that ability to. All our rights have been medically circumnavigated by executive order. That's a very small amount of people shutting down the whole US basically at the order of the UN/WHO. It's illegal for a foreign body to govern the US. If you don't get it by now, idk if you ever will. This is world government doing it's first strike. It's not with bombs, it's with a virus made by the US and China in high level bioweapons research labs, released out of China.

 

[shredder2]

I laugh my azz off seeing sheep rolling around alone in their cars with the windows rolled up wearing a mask.

Scamdemic... set in motion for a purpose.

Amazing bug it is... it cured the flu last year

 

[mahc 10+ year member]

I laugh my azz off seeing sheep rolling around alone in their cars with the windows rolled up wearing a mask.

Scamdemic... set in motion for a purpose.

Amazing bug it is... it cured the flu last year

100% a scam. Overcrowded countries with poor living conditions like China, India, Bangladesh and many others would be totally devastated.

They are exploiting the fact that most don't know what a pandemic is. When you'll see piles of dead bodies in the streets, hospitals closed because everybody is dead or to afraid to show up and cops opening fire on you to keep you away; you will know what a pandemic is.

 

[shredder2]

100% a scam. Overcrowded countries with poor living conditions like China, India, Bangladesh and many others would be totally devastated.

They are exploiting the fact that most don't know what a pandemic is. When you'll see piles of dead bodies in the streets, hospitals closed because everybody is dead or to afraid to show up and cops opening fire on you to keep you away; you will know what a pandemic is.

Remember when the msm had bodies in New York being stored in trailers because the hospitals in New York were overrun?

I saw thru that BS right away. Typical clarion msm reporting... lets create a story. The dishonesty shown by the msm this last year especially is enough to disband them and let the media get back to its roots and new entities form. How about some hustle?... find the truth... etc.

I'm almost sorry for commenting as I have a TON more to say about every aspect of this debacle but will digress at this point.

Ya... Biden/Harris

Winnerz only... lmao

 

[Clifff150 10+ year member]

Please share more my friend. I go down the rabbit hole all too often

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I mean COVID is a world wide bio attack. Whoever was involved with the creation of the strain of COVID 19 and whoever ran the lab it came from is responsible for everything that's happened since it broke out. How many lives is that? How many trillions in economic losses is that?

If China invaded a surrounding country and killed as many people as COVID has since the outbreak began, that would be a full blow war. Let's say you attribute every death of COVID to China, or specifically the party(ies) that ran the Wuhan BSL-4 lab. That means China or whoever has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. But it's a virus, it's not tanks and planes, so what do you do? Parties aligned with China becoming the super power of the world are the parties that own the media and our politicians, so they all side with what benefits a 21st rise of China over America. So China attacks the whole world, benefits from it economically, and China has infiltrated our government and has such close ties to big tech and Hollywood that they use that power as their US propaganda arm. America is on the kill list, as far as the global elite are concerned. It's not a secret, go read CFR documents on China and the 21st century. Whole books written about the relationship between China and the US.

And they got China Joe in. The same China that has very hardcore dirt on Hunter Biden. Very, very, very hardcore dirt. Biden is kept in line by blackmail. China has Jeffrey Epstein info on Hunter Biden. I mean, so do a lot of other people too, it flooded the internet at one point. Only the very last part of a war is kinetic war. Right now you're watching the war happening before the kinetic war starts. It's easy to see if you watch the military buildup of equipment. One hot thing right now is hypersonic missiles. Why do you think they're developing all of those missiles? Hypersonic missiles, you know, blow stuff up. So do drone swarms. So do autonomous wingmen. Why do you think China is militarizing the entire ocean that's off it's coast with artificial military islands? They're getting ready for war. Hypersonic missiles are great against aircraft carriers. Possibly why the US is beginning to deploy laser defenses on ships. The militaries around the world are getting locked and loaded. America is being rotted from the inside out, before the kinetic war starts. They'd love to just infiltrate America and take the gov over without any war. That's what you're seeing happen right now.

 

[shredder2]

Please share more my friend. I go down the rabbit hole all too often

Negative Ghostrider...

This has turned into a find your own truth situation...

Plus typing is not my forte... motor skill deficiencies and all.

Others type better... like paragraphs...

I'm staying small and keeping my powder dry nowadays.

 

[mahc 10+ year member]

I mean COVID is a world wide bio attack. Whoever was involved with the creation of the strain of COVID 19 and whoever ran the lab it came from is responsible for everything that's happened since it broke out. How many lives is that? How many trillions in economic losses is that?

If China invaded a surrounding country and killed as many people as COVID has since the outbreak began, that would be a full blow war. Let's say you attribute every death of COVID to China, or specifically the party(ies) that ran the Wuhan BSL-4 lab. That means China or whoever has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. But it's a virus, it's not tanks and planes, so what do you do? Parties aligned with China becoming the super power of the world are the parties that own the media and our politicians, so they all side with what benefits a 21st rise of China over America. So China attacks the whole world, benefits from it economically, and China has infiltrated our government and has such close ties to big tech and Hollywood that they use that power as their US propaganda arm. America is on the kill list, as far as the global elite are concerned. It's not a secret, go read CFR documents on China and the 21st century. Whole books written about the relationship between China and the US.

And they got China Joe in. The same China that has very hardcore dirt on Hunter Biden. Very, very, very hardcore dirt. Biden is kept in line by blackmail. China has Jeffrey Epstein info on Hunter Biden. I mean, so do a lot of other people too, it flooded the internet at one point. Only the very last part of a war is kinetic war. Right now you're watching the war happening before the kinetic war starts. It's easy to see if you watch the military buildup of equipment. One hot thing right now is hypersonic missiles. Why do you think they're developing all of those missiles? Hypersonic missiles, you know, blow stuff up. So do drone swarms. So do autonomous wingmen. Why do you think China is militarizing the entire ocean that's off it's coast with artificial military islands? They're getting ready for war. Hypersonic missiles are great against aircraft carriers. Possibly why the US is beginning to deploy laser defenses on ships. The militaries around the world are getting locked and loaded. America is being rotted from the inside out, before the kinetic war starts. They'd love to just infiltrate America and take the gov over without any war. That's what you're seeing happen right now.

I've read somewhere that the Beirut explosion was actually a tungsten rod test. At this point that wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

You are nearly the last person on this forum to be whining about unfounded claims. Do articles count for proof or do you only accept memes?

http://[URL]https://townhall.com/co...ally-overcounting-coronavirus-deaths-n2568925

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Proof, I've posted plenty of articles on here backing up what I'm saying with proof. I really don't know what you're talking about. I always hear people shooting out allegations and conspiracy theories with zero proof. You can come at me all you want, I'm used to it. I might be an azzhole, but I'm not a liar or a thief. If I say something, you can bet your azz that I have proof to back it up. But, then people will drop the "fake news" bullshiit talk. The CDC says over 520,000 deaths involving Covid-19. If you guys want to take the CDC's opinion on masks, then, you also have to accept their reported number of deaths. You can't have it both ways.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

USA Today -

"Jensen said, "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

Jensen clarified in the video that he doesn't think physicians are "gaming the system" so much as other "players," such as hospital administrators, who he said may pressure physicians to cite all diagnoses, including "probable" COVID-19, on discharge papers or death certificates to get the higher Medicare allocation allowed under the Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act. Past practice, Jensen said, did not include probabilities."

It has happened and continues to happen. It is admirable that you would like to believe that all people are good and ethical but you are naive to think it as well. Greed is a mother trucker and I promise you Bobbytwonames, if the hospitals can make up to a $34,000 profit just by saying it was "COVID", they ARE going to do it, they have and they continue to do it.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

USA Today -

"Jensen said, "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

Jensen clarified in the video that he doesn't think physicians are "gaming the system" so much as other "players," such as hospital administrators, who he said may pressure physicians to cite all diagnoses, including "probable" COVID-19, on discharge papers or death certificates to get the higher Medicare allocation allowed under the Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act. Past practice, Jensen said, did not include probabilities."

It has happened and continues to happen. It is admirable that you would like to believe that all people are good and ethical but you are naive to think it as well. Greed is a mother trucker and I promise you Bobbytwonames, if the hospitals can make up to a $34,000 profit just by saying it was "COVID", they ARE going to do it, they have and they continue to do it.

There is going to be fraud and douchebags in every type of business. I'm going to throw blanket statements out there like ALL or MOST Dr.'s are doing it. Has it happened, yes, should they be prosecuted, yes. But, it isn't a Republican or Democrat problem, it's an ethical problem. Do I think Covid is real, yes. Do I think masks help, yes. Do I think we should get vaccinated, yes. Do I think our previous President fukked up the handling of the virus, absolutely. Do I think the election was legitimate, yes. Are the gas prices Biden's fault, not really (OPEC and weather). Is politics nauseating, 100%.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Biden - "We should ban assault rifles and high capacity magazines... ddd hhee (incoherent speech) I'll speak more when I have more information on the shooting". So he doesn't have all the information about the shooting but he knows, FOR SURE, we should ban rifles and we need to pass more laws on background checks.

These idiots know that having more laws or banning shit isn't going to stop a killer from killing people!!!!!! Take away one tool, they will use a different tool!!!! Or maybe they don't know... they are idiots after all.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Biden - "We should ban assault rifles and high capacity magazines... ddd hhee (incoherent speech) I'll speak more when I have more information on the shooting". So he doesn't have all the information about the shooting but he knows, FOR SURE, we should ban rifles and we need to pass more laws on background checks.

These idiots know that having more laws or banning shit isn't going to stop a killer from killing people!!!!!! Take away one tool, they will use a different tool!!!! Or maybe they don't know... they are idiots after all.

So, is there anything that we can do to stop or slow down mass shootings? Or, are they just a part of life that we have to get used to? Serious question.