Wich subwoofer should i buy

[Memmeboy]

Hello i wounder which i should buy. im upgrading my speakers and then im gonna upgrade my subwoofer and i wounder wich i should i buy wich will play best i wounder if some of them is gonna clipp i want to avoid clipping. And i wounder to if it relly will play louder than mine i got now here what i have now i got 2 dayton audio UM10 but they are white instead of white and an mds torque amp i dont know what mds module but yeah and i dont know the other one either but wich fo these should i buy

2 12 inch deaf bounce apocalypse 1700W rms dual 2 ohm 89Db spl and 2 deafbounce machete OGO2500.1 amp

Or 2 12 inch massive hippoXL122 12 2000W rms and 95DB spl and 2 deaf bounce machete OGO2500.1 amp

And now i wounder wich has best value and will they clipp with that amp and will they relly play louder than mine i got now. Btw mine i got now plays often like 102Db i wounde how many db you would guess these 2 will play in db. And i got another question 1 ohm gets much more heat and im worried if they are gonna blow in 1 ohm im just worried should i be worried

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[BCotrell]

Hello i wounder which i should buy. im upgrading my speakers and then im gonna upgrade my subwoofer and i wounder wich i should i buy wich will play best i wounder if some of them is gonna clipp i want to avoid clipping. And i wounder to if it relly will play louder than mine i got now here what i have now i got 2 dayton audio UM10 but they are white instead of white and an mds torque amp i dont know what mds module but yeah and i dont know the other one either but wich fo these should i buy

2 12 inch deaf bounce apocalypse 1700W rms dual 2 ohm 89Db spl and 2 deafbounce machete OGO2500.1 amp

Or 2 12 inch massive hippoXL122 12 2000W rms and 95DB spl and 2 deaf bounce machete OGO2500.1 amp

And now i wounder wich has best value and will they clipp with that amp and will they relly play louder than mine i got now. Btw mine i got now plays often like 102Db i wounde how many db you would guess these 2 will play in db. And i got another question 1 ohm gets much more heat and im worried if they are gonna blow in 1 ohm im just worried should i be worried

2 d2 subsare going to wire to 2 Ohm is .5 ohm. There is Impedance rise But it is ideal to wire to your amps optimum impedance level. amp efficiency and corresponding output at 1 ohm will be greater on that dB amp. That said, 2 d4’s will wire to a final 1 ohm load

 

[Memmeboy]

2 d2 subsare going to wire to 2 Ohm is .5 ohm. There is Impedance rise But it is ideal to wire to your amps optimum impedance level. amp efficiency and corresponding output at 1 ohm will be greater on that dB amp. That said, 2 d4’s will wire to a final 1 ohm load

do you know the answer or is it hard know? so what i understand you cant wire dual 2 ohm to 1 ohm but you use dual 2 ohm to 1 ohm if you using one d2 ohm subs to 1 amp and thats what im doing im gonna have 2 of the same amp and 1 to each subwoofer so you can in that case use 1 ohm with dual 2 ohm

 

[BCotrell]

Oops, my bad, didn’t see the two amps. That’s a lot of amperage neede. Why not d4’s and single amp, cleaner wiring too.

 

[Memmeboy]

Oops, my bad, didn’t see the two amps. That’s a lot of amperage neede. Why not d4’s and single amp, cleaner wiring too.

idk can u do that but the thing is if i use 2 subs for that one it only got 1 cahnne land i will overpower the amp

 

[BCotrell]

idk can u do that but the thing is if i use 2 subs for that one it only got 1 cahnne land i will overpower the amp

No it won’t overpower the amp....use appropriate Power wire Guage for the amperage your amp(s) will consume. You would wire you wire the subs together to a single channel

 

[Memmeboy]

No it won’t overpower the amp....use appropriate Power wire Guage for the amperage your amp(s) will consume. You would wire you wire the subs together to a single channel

ok its hard to understand but one thing is to im worried for 1 ohm to blow should i be worried and then i wounder will both of these alternative play louder than mine now? and i wounder if one them or both will clipp but wait isnt it better to buy apocalypse AAB-2900D.1D it has the same price as the machete amp and it can handle more power but it maybe has worse quality idk

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

isnt it better to buy apocalypse AAB-2900D.1D it has the same price as the machete amp

The Machete and AAB2900 are two different circuit designs. You may do better with the 2900 but it is "full bridge" design which means you must NEVER run it below 1 ohm. Machete may be a bit more durable and survive .5 ohm.

I would avoid Massive in general, they are not a very good brand, you should get good value from alphard subs and they will give you honest ratings.

Now as far as which subs you want, first you must decide how much volume you can build for a box. Putting subs in a box which is too small will lead to disappointment even with the best equipment. This is the #1 biggest car audio noob mistake.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Hello i wounder which i should buy. im upgrading my speakers and then im gonna upgrade my subwoofer and i wounder wich i should i buy wich will play best i wounder if some of them is gonna clipp i want to avoid clipping. And i wounder to if it relly will play louder than mine i got now here what i have now i got 2 dayton audio UM10 but they are white instead of white and an mds torque amp i dont know what mds module but yeah and i dont know the other one either but wich fo these should i buy

2 12 inch deaf bounce apocalypse 1700W rms dual 2 ohm 89Db spl and 2 deafbounce machete OGO2500.1 amp

Or 2 12 inch massive hippoXL122 12 2000W rms and 95DB spl and 2 deaf bounce machete OGO2500.1 amp

And now i wounder wich has best value and will they clipp with that amp and will they relly play louder than mine i got now. Btw mine i got now plays often like 102Db i wounde how many db you would guess these 2 will play in db. And i got another question 1 ohm gets much more heat and im worried if they are gonna blow in 1 ohm im just worried should i be worried

considering I just did a setup that has 3 JL audio 10w6 v1s (baby subs)on a 100 watts that can do 130 db on music. I''d say your install needs work if your dayton can only hit 102...

 

[BCotrell]

ok its hard to understand but one thing is to im worried for 1 ohm to blow should i be worried and then i wounder will both of these alternative play louder than mine now? and i wounder if one them or both will clipp but wait isnt it better to buy apocalypse AAB-2900D.1D it has the same price as the machete amp and it can handle more power but it maybe has worse quality idk

I couldn’t even find the sub that takes 1700 watts rms but If they ask for 1700 watts Rms each that’s 3400 watts.Considering impedance rise An amp that’s rated at 2900 watts before rise doesn’t make sense to me

also it seems all the Alphard subs are d1 or d2 so d1’s will wire to final one ohm load. I wanted to come correct as I figured they came in d2 or d4 but i acknowledge that select higher power handling subs are offered in d1 or d2 arrangements.

 

[Memmeboy]

The Machete and AAB2900 are two different circuit designs. You may do better with the 2900 but it is "full bridge" design which means you must NEVER run it below 1 ohm. Machete may be a bit more durable and survive .5 ohm.

I would avoid Massive in general, they are not a very good brand, you should get good value from alphard subs and they will give you honest ratings.

Now as far as which subs you want, first you must decide how much volume you can build for a box. Putting subs in a box which is too small will lead to disappointment even with the best equipment. This is the #1 biggest car audio noob mistake.

is deaf bounce a good brand tho? idk how big my box is now i will check that how do i know if my box is too small for my new ones? massive is relly expensive tho

 

[Memmeboy]

considering I just did a setup that has 3 JL audio 10w6 v1s (baby subs)on a 100 watts that can do 130 db on music. I''d say your install needs work if your dayton can only hit 102...

they cost 600 dollars for one thats to expensive for me do you think 3 deaf bounce machete M10 v2 D4 will play loud and is it a good quality sub since they are so cheap? or should i go for 3 apocalypse instead?

 

[Clifff150 10+ year member]

is deaf bounce a good brand tho? idk how big my box is now i will check that how do i know if my box is too small for my new ones?

Yes

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

is deaf bounce a good brand tho?

Yes.

is jl audio a good brand?

Yes, but not really the same design philosophy or application as the Alphard. Alphard may be more reasonably priced in Europe because they're located in Europe and are set up to serve that market. JL is just expensive everywhere but they do most of their manufacturing in USA and do real R&D in house.

Alphard seems to have a good lineup for serious (get loud) competition equipment. JL would be more what you'd buy if you were competing for sound quality.

 

[Memmeboy]

Yes.

Yes, but not really the same design philosophy or application as the Alphard. Alphard may be more reasonably priced in Europe because they're located in Europe and are set up to serve that market. JL is just expensive everywhere but they do most of their manufacturing in USA and do real R&D in house.

Alphard seems to have a good lineup for serious (get loud) competition equipment. JL would be more what you'd buy if you were competing for sound quality.

do you think 3 deaf bounce machete M10 v2 D4 will play loud? and 3 apocalypse AAB-1500.1D atom on 2 ohm play loud? because i want loud cheap and quality parts im on a budget is machete good quality because they are so cheap
or should i go with machete 12 inch on 950rms but i have heard that more Watts doesnt mean stronger? and i got another question this can probably be hard to answer but haow many db qould you expect of these 3 subs?