You mad at Obama?WERE YOU MAD WHEN..........?

[VWBobby 10+ year member]

Again, government does a lot more than provide firefighters and policemen and roads.

I agree. I'm just pointing out the major aspects of what they're "supposed" to be taxing us for the service(s).

In Oregon, the local government cries about needing money for education. The public pays higher taxes. Next year, more money for schools. It never ends....

Unless you think companies selling diseased food and poisonous drugs is a right that should be protected. Unless you think companies forcing workers to work 80 hour weeks while making below the poverty level is a right that should be protected.

Again, I agree. However, companies still do sell diseased food and poisonous drugs. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif I know a civil rights lawyer that spends a lot of time suing various food and drug companies. He even "won" $12,000 for supposedly finding a bug in a piece of candy!

You talk about knowing about the lowest common denominator, but don't realize that the government is the one that keeps the lowest common denominator from falling too low.

They keep them from falling too low through welfare and other forms of low budget social security. They also keep the middle class poor (small business taxes, ~30%) and the upper class tax free. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

That's one of the only things I like about Republicans. The true/real republicans don't believe in big government and overtaxing.

How does an illegal immigrant voting or driving make you feel unsafe? Not that both of those claims aren't enormous bullshit anyway, but just the principle. Are you that bigoted? Are you that xenophobic? Are you that racist?

For the reasons someone posted above. If you are hit by someone who doesn't obey the laws by carrying insurance and a license to drive. They NEED to pass a basic exam, In ENGLISH, because our roads and signs are not written in any other languages. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

I'm not racist. I've been to Mexico, Germany, the Netherlands, and a few other places....I enjoy other people's cultures and leave them alone. I don't leave my influence in their country and impose my beliefs on them. In fact, I've made a lot of friends while traveling.

A lot of people who listen to worldwide news like the BBC, etc think we are under a total police state..... You know what? They're right.

I experienced more freedom in Germany, Mexico and the Netherlands than any place in the US. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

I'm not saying that we need to be like them by a long shot! Just that we are not as "free" as everyone would like to think we are!

What other of your rights is the government infringing? Government regulates business from extorting consumers. How is that a bad thing? You seem pretty smart so I'm hoping that you aren't stupid enough to believe in free market principles or some other farce.

Government protection for consumers is a good thing, for sure. The FTC and the DOJ help. The problem is with the high amount of bogus, fraudulent and otherwise low-quality goods that enter our ports. If we had more Quality Control, we wouldn't have half of the problems with our goods that we have today. Attention to detail and pride in ones workmanship will result in a more quality product, regardless of price. (sometimes even cheaper!)

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[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I agree. I'm just pointing out the major aspects of what they're "supposed" to be taxing us for the service(s).In Oregon, the local government cries about needing money for education. The public pays higher taxes. Next year, more money for schools. It never ends....

That's because our govt has a spending problem based on the idea that taxes are a virtually bottomless well from which to dip from.

 

[twistedchild420 5,000+ posts]

The 100 Best Signs At The Rally To Restore Sanity And/Or Fear: Pics, Videos, Links, News

 

[abates 10+ year member]

What a meaningful comment.


I honestly didnt know the answer to that question, so I googled it. Bet you cant guess what the answer is. lol

"The first Klan was founded in 1865 in Pulaski, Tennessee by veterans of the Confederate Army. Although it never had an organizational structure above the local level, similar groups across the South adopted the name and methods. Klan groups spread throughout the South as an insurgent movement during the Reconstruction era in the United States As a secret vigilante group, the Klan focused its anger reacted against Radical Republican and sought to restore white supremacy by threats and violence, including murder, against black and white Republicans. In 1870 and 1871 the federal government passed the Force Acts, which were used to prosecute Klan crimes. Prosecution of Klan crimes and enforcement of the Force Acts suppressed Klan activity. In 1874 and later, however, newly organized and openly active paramilitary organizations, such as the White League and the Red Shirts, started a fresh round of violence aimed at suppressing Republican voting and running Republicans out of office. These contributed to segregationist white Democrats regaining political power in all the Southern states by 1877."

"Lifting the Klan mask revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own. Indeed, all they had in common, besides being overwhelmingly white, southern, and Democratic, was that they called themselves, or were called, Klansmen."

Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oops?

Gosh you are so stuuuuuuuuuuuuupid! Do you really think is what the KKK is currently doing? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

I live 25 minutes from Pulaski, so I have known about the changes the KKK has gone thru.

 

[abates 10+ year member]

He is indisputably wrong, with 100% proof posted to verify. This means there is virtually no chance he will address this point again.

Oh yea, the KKK hasn't changed a bit in 145 years! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Maybe he is smart enough to notice that people that are WAY smarter than all of us combined in this thread know that the better answer is the left. You know people like Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, & the Rooney's who ALL are Obama supporters. Are you trying to sell yourself as on par with these highly successful people when it comes to politics? Your condescending & arrogants remarks tell me the answer.

I can tell you Bill Gates is who he is because of who his father was and Oprah is from the Hollywood scene. Elites will support government to proctect their nest egg and in all history their were "elite" class people.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Gosh you are so stuuuuuuuuuuuuupid! Do you really think is what the KKK is currently doing? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
I live 25 minutes from Pulaski, so I have known about the changes the KKK has gone thru.

Kinda like with the auto worker things you were owned on before? I am suprised you didn't say you were in the kkk. You can try to bait and switch the ideology, the fact is the reason as I stated before why many leftist hacks try to demonize the republicans. Has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with the commerce clause.

 

[abates 10+ year member]

I can tell you Bill Gates is who he is because of who his father was and Oprah is from the Hollywood scene. Elites will support government to proctect their nest egg and in all history their were "elite" class people.

Oprah & Bill Gates are very smart & giving people, smarter than you & me combined.

 

[abates 10+ year member]

Kinda like with the auto worker things you were owned on before? I am suprised you didn't say you were in the kkk. You can try to bait and switch the ideology, the fact is the reason as I stated before why many leftist hacks try to demonize the republicans. Has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with the commerce clause.

What?!?!?!?!?!?

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Oh yea, the KKK hasn't changed a bit in 145 years! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL and you ignore the Democratic primaries between Clinton and Obama?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/hide.gif.2d479cfd917eedfe201353b91522ceab.gif

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

What?!?!?!?!?!?

Educate yourself, look into it. When I had my time off being unemployed I did a lot of research, in fact it was enough to show 2 40+ year democrats who donated to the democratic party to switch. I was a democratic donor and volunteer as was my mother. My father used to be a democratic donor as well.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Oprah & Bill Gates are very smart & giving people, smarter than you & me combined.

Yes with all the people paid to do their research and hide behind you might be correct.

 

[abates 10+ year member]

Yes with all the people paid to do their research and hide behind you might be correct.

Hide behind? They openly supported Obama.

 

[abates 10+ year member]

Educate yourself, look into it. When I had my time off being unemployed I did a lot of research, in fact it was enough to show 2 40+ year democrats who donated to the democratic party to switch. I was a democratic donor and volunteer as was my mother. My father used to be a democratic donor as well.

SIGH! You are yet again changing the subject to something else. I simply stated that many conservatives in this area are racists. Plain & simple.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

SIGH! You are yet again changing the subject to something else. I simply stated that many conservatives in this area are racists. Plain & simple.

I know a grand wizard who was on CNN 2 or 3 times and on Jerry Springer 2 or 3 times who used to have democratic candidate politcal signs in his yard, what is your point?