you choose....

[denim 5,000+ posts]

I posted generally the same questions on Caraudioforum.com and no one could come up with an answer.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

I want to know, from the people who picked Obama, give me a real reason, and not the lame "time for a change" or his "charisma" or he is a "great speaker", a real solid reason that he has proven in his history that he is ready to be our president. 

Keep in mind I am still undecided, but I am appalled by the masses who don't know why Obama is the right person, or have anything concrete from his experience or background as a government official, that makes him the right person. I have paid attention to his speeches and debates, and the sweeping generalities playing off the hopes and dreams of the public, and I still struggle to understand how he would be able to make these massive changes without the heart of the American population taking the hit, let alone actually work.

 

I have great respect for Obama, he is very intelligent and well educated, but why is it so hard for people, with all these debates on national TV, to say that they know what he stands for or agree with his stance?

 

Why is someone who was virtually unknown outside of his home state, 12 months later, is treated like a rock star?

 

Not trying to start a fight, and I know CA.com is the last place to be posing these heavy questions of political nature, but I feel I need to understand why he has such a massive following and what is causing this, and how he will get it done.

These are the same questions that anyone who intelligently follows these debates/rallies/political issues thinks.

I just don't get it. It is pretty scary actually, that one person who is playing on the idea of change and have no real substance can get such as strong following.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

I want to know, from the people who picked Obama, give me a real reason, and not the lame "time for a change" or his "charisma" or he is a "great speaker", a real solid reason that he has proven in his history that he is ready to be our president. 

Keep in mind I am still undecided, but I am appalled by the masses who don't know why Obama is the right person, or have anything concrete from his experience or background as a government official, that makes him the right person. I have paid attention to his speeches and debates, and the sweeping generalities playing off the hopes and dreams of the public, and I still struggle to understand how he would be able to make these massive changes without the heart of the American population taking the hit, let alone actually work.

 

I have great respect for Obama, he is very intelligent and well educated, but why is it so hard for people, with all these debates on national TV, to say that they know what he stands for or agree with his stance?

 

Why is someone who was virtually unknown outside of his home state, 12 months later, is treated like a rock star?

 

Not trying to start a fight, and I know CA.com is the last place to be posing these heavy questions of political nature, but I feel I need to understand why he has such a massive following and what is causing this, and how he will get it done.

I agree. He doesn't have an actual foundation for what he is building. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

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[joetama 5,000+ posts]

I agree. He doesn't have an actual foundation for what he is building. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif
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So if he gets elected what is he actually going to bring?

No one can truly say... But, it is a very scary idea.

Maybe these folks can explain why he is so great.

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[denim 5,000+ posts]

Joe, the really scary thing is the demographic that is voting for Obama, largely college educated. As in the ones who paid with their wallets and the time to research and learn about new things, but they don't know why he is the best one.

 

I am not bashing him, I want to understand why.

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

hard choices, luckily i don't vote

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

Something else that bothers me is the talking heads on CNN and the like, in this case are mostly women, are going to vote for Hillary solely because of gender.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Joe, the really scary thing is the demographic that is voting for Obama, largely college educated. As in the ones who paid with their wallets and the time to research and learn about new things, but they don't know why he is the best one. 

I am not bashing him, I want to understand why.

Barack Hussein Obama spoke on our campus a few days ago.

14,000 + people showed up to see him speak. 2 people fainted, most people waited in line 6+ Hours to see him. It was cold, slowing, and at points it was a snow rain mix.

People took their kids out of school, people took off of their jobs. There were 10 kids in my Finance class who skipped the exam (and I doubt the prof is letting them make it up) to go see him.

There was a mother and daughter who called into a talk radio show on 700 WLW to talk about "how great it was to see Barack Hussein Obama". When asked "why are you voting/supporting Obama" the mother and the daughter had the same answer "for change". They didn't know anything about his health policies, his WOI plans, his plans for pubically traded companies. They just know "he supports change" he supports "That CEOs shouldn't make more than the working man".

This is unacceptable and unbelievable behavior to go see someone who called us the "BobCats" when we are the BearCats. I listened to his speech on the radio and he said nothing of substance. Nothing of his true plans.

We have had rallies before, large sporting events, concerts for many large touring acts here on the campus of UC. But, in the 4 years that I have been here I have never seen so many people going to see one man. As Willie Cunningham says it "people act like he is the Messiah".

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Joe, the really scary thing is the demographic that is voting for Obama, largely college educated. As in the ones who paid with their wallets and the time to research and learn about new things, but they don't know why he is the best one. 

I am not bashing him, I want to understand why.

It's not a good reason, but I believe it's what you've already hit on the head.

He's telling people what they want to hear. That group of people is really unsure on what they want, but they know they want one thing, the magic word... change. And that just so happens to be the basis of his campaign.

Unfortunately, that's how I see it... still doesn't provide you with a real reason why.

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[joetama 5,000+ posts]

It's not a good reason, but I believe it's what you've already hit on the head.
He's telling people what they want to hear. That group of people is really unsure on what they want, but they know they want one thing, the magic word... change. And that just so happens to be the basis of his campaign.

Unfortunately, that's how I see it... still doesn't provide you with a real reason why.

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Go download the 700 WLW podcast for Willie... Listen for a while, tell me if you really don't like Obama after that... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[kballa422 10+ year member]

I agree with everything you all have said. It seems as if that is the case with a lot of democrats these days, not just Obama. They continually bash Bush for the poor job he has done, and promise change and a new direction, but they dont really provide any concrete strategies with substance, yet a lot of people buy into it.

Another scary thing...I read an ESPN article a couple of weeks ago talking about athletes and politics. The article urged athletes to get involved, especially black athletes. He was saying this is the first real chance to see a black man as President, and that the black athletes should get out and vote for him. Several black athletes were quoted saying they were voting for Obama because they were excited to see a black man in office. I thought it was ridiculous to see an article on there basically telling all the black ppl to vote for Obama simply because he was black.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Go download the 700 WLW podcast for Willie... Listen for a while, tell me if you really don't like Obama after that... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Lol, no need to.

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[joetama 5,000+ posts]

I agree with everything you all have said. It seems as if that is the case with a lot of democrats these days, not just Obama. They continually bash Bush for the poor job he has done, and promise change and a new direction, but they dont really provide any concrete strategies with substance, yet a lot of people buy into it.
Another scary thing...I read an ESPN article a couple of weeks ago talking about athletes and politics. The article urged athletes to get involved, especially black athletes. He was saying this is the first real chance to see a black man as President, and that the black athletes should get out and vote for him. Several black athletes were quoted saying they were voting for Obama because they were excited to see a black man in office. I thought it was ridiculous to see an article on there basically telling all the black ppl to vote for Obama simply because he was black.

And if anyone questions that... They would be called racist, a bigot, or a junior member of the KKK.

Liberals can recommend it, but if a conservative questions it they are crucified.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Lol, no need to.
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Did you see the video of him speaking at the McCain rally?

I laughed...

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

In some cases, and sadly I am quoting hillary,

 

Change is not always a good thing. And no, I am not saying Bush did a good job at all, just that saying change everything is wrong.

 

And so my questions still stand with out answers. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

 

If this keeps up, 1 year from now, SSA will have a new address in the south of Spain.