you choose....

[denim 5,000+ posts]

Well said Neil.

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

Good point...
What is your name, because I am going to write it on the Ballot...

Goob

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

If Clinton wins, I'm going to move to a more conservative nation like Canada.

I assure you that we are still very liberal in ideology even though a Conservative government currently holds power. The only reason they got in is because the Liberals f'd up bad...the Liberals will be back in power after the next election...I'm quite sure of it.

And if you saw the budget just released by our "Conservative" government, I'm not sure you'd agree that they're very conservative.

 

[skeptikal Premium Member]

WEll, now you have me backed into a corner here....


That would be sweet!

hahahha

Fear the Brandon... For he is very scary.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

I don't mean to make this an Obama bash-fest, but....
I find Obama to be a very inspirational speaker. He talks of ending partisan wars within the country...he talks of resolving social and economic issues...he talks of leading the US back into foreign policy prosperity.

But a single moment still sticks out in my mind. It was the last debate (I believe) on CNN that John Edwards was in. Hillary pointed out that over 100 times as a member of the Senate, Barack Obama voted "Present." This means he voted neither yes or no. I believe it was Wolf Blitzer who then asked John Edwards a question, after which Edwards turned to Obama and said "Barack, I want to know why you voted Present over 100 times." And Obama still didn't answer directly answer why.

The reason he voted that way is obvious to me. You vote present when you wish to avoid voting against the majority or to avoid voting against your supporters. Which is smart. But it isn't inspirational....it doesn't drive change...it is cowardice, in my opinion. If you believe in something, vote that way. If you don't care, get out of politics.

But the Democratic base is so desperate for change that they have been dying to do something drastically different in the most superficial way. And that's why Barack and Hillary are the ones still standing. I don't honestly believe that either of them is more qualified than other Democratic candidates. If America wants experience, I think John Edwards would've been a good vote. Heck, he's already been through a Presidential race as VP. If American wants change, Dennis Kucinich would've been a good vote. He is against the war in Iraq and wanted to change fiscal policy. But people don't know the issues...so they vote for the person who preaches change and the person with name recognition preaching experience.

And in the event Obama wins, how will he make it through the Presidential race? Let's remember what happened to Kerry...he got "swift boated" into a loss. It seems like Obama is already reacting strongly to minor things that the Clinton camp has said...what is he going to do when the conservative base turns their full attention to him? I hate to side with Hillary on this one, but I think she has the tenacity to take them on.

Please move to America. If you have friends that are aware as you are please bring them along. If you need a place to stay I have a big apartment... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

I don't know if McCain will run a slash & burn, shock & awe campaign like the other Republicans would have. He apologized for what Willie Cunningham said at one of his rallies. And all he did was call Obama a "hack Chicago style Politician" but, the big issue was that he said his full name. I don't know if McCain has the nuts to run the hate campaign. Which is why I hope Hillary wins against Obama.

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

I can't answer your questions directly as I am not an Obama supporter, but check out this video if you haven't seen it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gifhttp://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=295218

I am watching the video you linked, thank you. The interviewee did a good job and dealing with the interviewer, but all he did was regurgitate what Obama has said in speeches and did not answer my questions of how it is going to be done. Just the drastic generalizations in the tense of a positive hope. His father is a doctor and he still did not clearly understand how it will transpire. He does say what we should have done, but still did not say how Obama will do it.

 

[kballa422 10+ year member]

If Hil becomes president, I honestly am moving, somewhere to the Caribbean. Even if she doesnt, I still prob will, not that any of you all care. I'm just getting sick of our government.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Being more liberal than Clinton is impossible. She defines 'left wing nut job'. It was more of a complement to Canada than anything else.

Uhhh I'm going to disagree...

There are Bolshevistics then Obama... SO there are 2 things more liberal than Clinton... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

I am watching the video you linked, thank you. The interviewee did a good job and dealing with the interviewer, but all he did was regurgitate what Obama has said in speeches and did not answer my questions of how it is going to be done. Just the drastic generalizations in the tense of a positive hope. His father is a doctor and he still did not clearly understand how it will transpire. He does say what we should have done, but still did not say how Obama will do it.

Indeed... Loops and circles... Loops and Circles...

If Hil becomes president, I honestly am moving, somewhere to the Caribbean. Even if she doesnt, I still prob will, not that any of you all care. I'm just getting sick of our government.

Other gov'ts are worse... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

i cant stomach any of them... i think i'll write in Nader.

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

Well.... Maybe. But it is DAYMN close!

I think we could do a lot worse than Clinton... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[joetama 5,000+ posts]

i cant stomach any of them... i think i'll write in Nader.

He is running again...

For the 23829382 Billionth time...