WTF America!!!

[Lbetts818]

Absolutely. I'm very firm with my daughter but in a good way. And she's extemly polite and greatful. Please thank you etc.....it all start with the parent.

 

[Darth_Immitis]

This is Amereica. Someone or someones maybe John Kuthe, is deff causing trouble/creating problems for the rest of us. Something that's been going on for years....and not a peep about it. So why now? Doesn't make sense. Let's focus on the real issues we have here in the USA....not creating new ones on top of the ones we have already. kneeling down because he got a TD and offended someone?!?! Really???
Next time I see some out of country person and I say to them Merry Christmas and they get offended by it, I'm gonna look them straight in the face and ask them then why the **** are you in America if your offended by a holiday greeting? Don't like it here then go back to your own country. And take papermaker with you and his overcooked pork chop.

This made my day!

 

[BOOMINGRANDPA 5,000+ posts]

People don’t die for a flag. They die for the constitution which includes the 1st amendment. I guess when people kneel to get knighted they are doing it wrong.

problem with that thought is the queen is in the country our peeps died fighting to get away from lol..

 

[Slo_Ride 5,000+ posts]

Sadly I think "most" of us 25-26 yo and up we're the last of if you lose you lose and now everyone gets a trophy. I gave one of my employees a honest evaluation and as cleaner she scored 86 out of 100. She was balling and the head boss said next time be nicer and consider her feeling. What....the....***......this is what we've become as a nation. Star bucks,man buns, and sensitivity training. I just wish I could afford 100 acres in the middle of no where and have all my groceries delivered.

I like Starbucks.

 

[Boomin_tahoe 5,000+ posts]

Someone doesn't like my posts....

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Anybody sitting out the national anthem is doing so purely for attention and virtue signaling.

Also notice most of these mopes that riot over whatever criminal shitbag was removed from society this week are usually those who would have killed him themselves over a piece of chicken, a pair of shoes, an x-box game, or a 20$ drug debt.

If you care about a cause actually do something about it besides moral preening by posting selfies on Faceberg. Those people make me sick with how selfish and disingenuous they are.

 

[subzero 5,000+ posts]

The purpose is to extend division in America. If you have a problem with the justice system, you join and change. If you have a political issue likewise. Change happens when you get involved with the party to the problem. Sure there are corrupt people in every fabric of society. I say, instead of telling these kids to take a knee, I would tell them to write a letter visit the source. Speak up, speak out. Taking a knee does nothing.

 

[Lbetts818]

I'm not for or against the knee. Not on side a or side b. I just found it comical these spoiled kids would even pretend for a day they care or are aware of the social inequalities facing some people today. not weather its right or wrong or respectful or disrespectful. If you drive through either high school parking lot I garuntee you would think the staff parking is the students and the student parking lot is the staff. We're talking 16 year old kids driving brand new challengers, chargers,2016 f150s etc.....it's one of those things if you've been in this city more than a week you'd understand and find equally as funny. The superintendent even sent a mass email saying that while he doesn't completely agree that it's these students given rights. It's one of those just because you can doesn't mean you should kinda things....

 

[adulbrich 5,000+ posts]

Fuck cappernick

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

I think John kuthe gave them the idea

im sure he threatened to rape the town

 

[NSTALN 10+ year member]

The most racist people I have ever encountered (in my own life) have been black. I don't know of any other group/community that views everything through the lens of race to the extent of the black community...EVERYTHING is somehow racist...and always somehow they're the victims.

Yes America has a tarnished history when it comes to how we've treated VARIOUS ETHNIC GROUPS throughout the years...but we've also gone to great lengths to atone for those sins and change.

There is not a single law that can be written to change how people feel about/perceive each other...there just isn't. All a government can do is create a FAIR and EQUAL playing field in which EVERYONE has an equal chance at happiness. We've already done that...some might say we've actually gone beyond and actually given advantages to certain groups/communities (affirmative action etc).

I think it's odd that other communities (Asian, East Indian, Muslim, South American) have found ways to be quite successful and have flourished in our society...yet this one community seems stuck in this 'we're oppressed and it's all whitey's fault' mode. EVERYONE is/has been discriminated against at one point or another. It's sad and sick that identity politics is such a big thing these days.

The truth is there is NO grand white supremacy conspiracy...there just isn't. That's not to say there aren't idiots that promote that sort of thinking...but as a rational person those notions should be dismissed as fringe. There will always be extremist for whatever cause/race/issue whatever...but by and large most folks of any community just don't agree with that sort of division.

Some of the most hateful people I have met have been 'not-white'...but also some of the most beautiful and kind people I have encounter were also 'not-white'....and vice-versa. The bottom line is you CANNOT judge a book by it's cover...and that goes both ways. The popular narrative these days is that 'people of color' are somehow being oppressed by 'white people'...this is just NOT FACTUALLY ACCURATE. Look at the major black communities (Chicago, Detroit, Philly) that are absolutely dismal...who runs them?! Who has run them for DECADES?! Predominantly black (almost completely Democratic) leaders....Local officials,Mayors, Governors, Councilmen/women in most cases folks of color. How can that be pinned on 'whitey' and some grand conspiracy....

What seems crazy to me is that the blame gets placed everywhere except where it should be...ON THE INDIVIDUAL. It seems like facts no longer matter only narratives...'Hands up, don't shoot' NEVER HAPPENED...overwhelming evidence confirmed that...but it doesn't matter...what mattered is it was another opportunity to blame 'whitey' for something. The 'I can't breathe' choke-hold thing was also BS....the headlock was used to take the guy down and was released when the guy was on the ground and subdued...the medical report showed that the guy was overweight and in poor heath and the stress of the incident caused a heart issue leading to his death...it had nothing to do with the 'choke-hold'. Also it had nothing to do with race...the supervising officer on scene was a black female...but yet the narrative was 'white cop chokes and kills black man for NO reason'.

Don't get me wrong...there are other examples that SHOULD NOT be dismissed...the gentleman that had the broken neck in the back of the police van (Freddie Gray I think was his name)...he went into the van OK and came out with fatal neck injuries?! That can't be ignored or dismissed...something was clearly fvcked up there...but again NOT a racial thing 3 of the 6 police charged in that incident were black.

Identity politics and the racial blame-game really makes me sick and makes me really sad/scared for the future of our country. I have gay, straight, trans, white, hispanic, asian and Indian folks in my family by blood and through marriage...I remember my grandfather made a comment a long time ago that our holiday dinner table looked like a meeting of the UN...I was too young to understand at the time but he said it with pride. Racism will only end when people (of EVERY color) stop viewing things through a lens of color.

We're all just people...every individual is different...regardless of what we look like. I really hoped I would see a day when this kind of division was no longer an issue in our country...that was one of the reasons I voted for Obama...I thought I would be cool to show the world community that we had evolved beyond our bigoted past...sadly that has been proven to not be the case.

If folks want to protest racial injustice...fine...but when you do it during the national anthem you should expect some push-back...it conflates the issue.

 

[Lbetts818]

So what happened was weird....the kids locked arms and decided that was good enough. Then a lady in American flag underwear over leggings was standing under the flag and refused to move. When asked to leave she said I paid 6$ to get in and stand here. Then pushed a cop away, got pepper sprayed, the punched another cop and got tasered:applause: Now that was the best 6$ I spent to go see a football game. *** yeah merica!!!! And sloride I like Starbucks too lol. Was just saying were too "sensitive" anymore.