Workout thread..

[pw91686 10+ year member]

First of all you really don't understand stretching and how to apply it scientifically and second injury is NOT CAUSED by people not stretching enough!! Where is your evidence for this??? Does a cheeta stretch before it chasses a gizelle???

True, injury is not CAUSED by people not stretching enough. However, it helps prevent injuries, and this has been proven in many studies.

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

um... no muscles are sore cuase of karma, you bet up peopplA adn then the bad karma gets ib your musclesad then you ar in the pain.... use yo powas 4 good werd!

dawg.

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[pw91686 10+ year member]

Ok guys there is a lot of gym science and missunderstanding floating around on there. This is FALSE. Your muscles are sore because they are injured - if you look at the mucle tissue under a microscope you would see that the cells are damaged. In otherwords, your ripped/tore a muscle and it needs to heal. Reread my post up above for your answer as to why or why not to exercise a sore muscle.
Lactic acid is a byproduct of anaerobic metabolism and is responcible for the fatigue you feel when doing rigerous exercise. It doesn't cause sore muscles. It is infact converted to a chemical called piruvate and burned off as an energy substrate within a few hours after your workout...this is why there is such a metabolic effect of anaerobic exercise which can last up to two days in some cases.

Your biceps muscles flex your elbo and very weakly flex your shoulder due to its attachments. If you repeatedly flex your elbo against resistance WITHOUT proper joint stability at the shoulder and without adequate healing time and without proper progression and without exercising the muscle THROUGH A FULL RANGE OF MOTION, then you get some unstable joints, damaged muscle tissue, and short and tight biceps. Your body doesn't want to lengthen it out by extending your elbow all the way out for these very reasons - mostly because you are lifting too heavy of a weight and shortening and tightening that **** thing so much!!!

On a side note about training through a full range of motion. I "work" my abs by doing crunches on a stabliity ball with a full range of motion and a 50 lb dumbell on my chest no more than twice per week for about 4 sets total for the week. That means I do about 40 heavly loaded crunches per WEEK and I have what would most would consider the model midsection (ie. six pack)!! Just some food for thought.

The undertrained athlete always outperforms the overtrained athlete. My advice: work hard, then rest hard. If you cannot best your last workout by at least 1-3% improvement, then you need to rest. LISTEN TO YOUR BODY - NOT TO YOUR BUDDIES IN THE GYM OR THESE GOOFBALLS THAT WRITE THESE RIDICULUS ARTICLES IN MAGAZINES!!

It has been proven that you can exercise a sore muscle, because of the fact, that the soreness is from the hydrogen ion in lactic acid, if that is what you would want to say, rather than lactic acid. Your muscles are not necessarily injured, the fibers are very slightly torn and the bleed. But this is not what causes the soreness. That is why you cannot gauge when you should workout that body part again based on soreness, give it at least 3 days, in my opinion, and even if it is still sore, you can work out that body part.

Oh, and it's pyruvate.

 

[NJack2AF 10+ year member]

I had a feeling there would be a lot of misinformed people posting in here... I'll stay out of the ClusterF*ck.

 

[pw91686 10+ year member]

it's up to you to decide who is misinformed, I have read many men's fitness magazines and articles from supplement magazines. I am in pre-med so I know quite a bit about biology and chemistry and have a gook knowledge of bodybuilding and how your body works. Just because that guy claims to be a personal trainer doesn't mean he knows everything about weightlifting.

 

[Mark_ab 5,000+ posts]

it's up to you to decide who is misinformed, I have read many men's fitness magazines and articles from supplement magazines. I am in pre-med so I know quite a bit about biology and chemistry and have a gook knowledge of bodybuilding and how your body works. Just because that guy claims to be a personal trainer doesn't mean he knows everything about weightlifting.

Just because you're in pre-med and have read men's health magazines doesn't mean you know everything about weightlifting.

 

[iLL-Faded 10+ year member]

yea theres alot of miss information, if you want just research it and do it.

 

[pw91686 10+ year member]

Just because you're in pre-med and have read men's health magazines doesn't mean you know everything about weightlifting.

I didn't say that I know everything, but I have read many research articles and so the things I have written are based on research, not personal opinion.

However, if someone wants recommendations for weight lifting, I can give them some based on what I know from my own experience.

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

I had a feeling there would be a lot of misinformed people posting in here... I'll stay out of the ClusterF*ck.

Bingo.

There are such things as scholarly papers and journals. Use them.

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

I have read many men's fitness magazines and articles from supplement magazines. I am in pre-med ...

Now you know why you are so confused!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif No offense buddy, but studying someone elses fantasy about the "right" way or the "best" way to do anything is the fastest way to fail. Sure you can learn a few things this way, but it is the practice of applying your knowledge that affords you the ablity to know "things." My clients don't pay me $100/hr for me to guess on them, so it is important that I accurately assess them and then apply the pricipals of exercise effectively. If you happen to graduate from med school and become a Doctor, you will begin a medical PRACTICE won't you???? By the way, when I said that I was a trainer - that is exactly what I meant...think about it

 

[slick rick 10+ year member]

**** 100 an hour huh? maybe i should quit applying to law schools. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

so do you stretch during your workout? if so, when and why?

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

True, injury is not CAUSED by people not stretching enough. However, it helps prevent injuries, and this has been proven in many studies.

Name one...just one...I can't wait!!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

**** 100 an hour huh? maybe i should quit applying to law schools. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
so do you stretch during your workout? if so, when and why?

Stretching IS helpful, that's why it exists. If you do it for a reason and to carry out a specific objective then you can do it at anytime during your exercise session. Read the article I posted on the first page and you will understand how, why, and when to stretch

The best form of stretching is working out...but there's a catch...you have to do it right.