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[RobGMN Premium Member]

You are about as dumb as they come. Nobody said anything about the government censoring and controlling anything. If the police arrest someone then they have all the information of the person in custody. It is public record. All one has to do is go ask for the information. All I said is that it is pointless for the news to give out the alleged criminal or suspects information as it does nothing for the general public and allows morons to form ideas and opinions which lead to people doing dumb things to people who have nothing to do with the crime. So go phuck yourself and all your dumb asss comments and conclusions. You don't know shit. Idiot.

That is very much NOT what you said, but if you don’t want to stand behind your own words, so be it.
But remember: Denying what you said when it’s tight on the thread got all to see makes you look quite foolish.

And, are these anger flare ups associated with drinking? They remind me of my old neighbor who would become really Barry after he downed a few too many. Damn near bipolar on booze.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

That is very much NOT what you said, but if you don’t want to stand behind your own words, so be it.
But remember: Denying what you said when it’s tight on the thread got all to see makes you look quite foolish.

And, are these anger flare ups associated with drinking? They remind me of my old neighbor who would become really Barry after he downed a few too many. Damn near bipolar on booze.

Like I said, you can't comprehend shit. STFU stupid.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Like I said, you can't comprehend shit. STFU stupid.

Why do you deny your own words, and literally challenge me to prove you wrong over and over again?

You suggested information having to be obtained through a FOIA request. Specifically, information about someone who committed a crime. “ It's just not important for the general public to know. If it is really that important that you just NEED to know then you should be able to get that information through a FOIA request.”
“Could/should be able to get it through a foia request.”

Such information (info that you would need a FOIA request to obtain) is held by a Federal agency.
A federal agency is a government agency.

You added to this idea by saying info about crimes should be withheld from the public until a hearing and conviction occurs.

These are both advocating control censorship by the US government.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Why do you deny your own words, and literally challenge me to prove you wrong over and over again?

You suggested information having to be obtained through a FOIA request. Specifically, information about someone who committed a crime. “ It's just not important for the general public to know. If it is really that important that you just NEED to know then you should be able to get that information through a FOIA request.”
“Could/should be able to get it through a foia request.”

Such information (info that you would need a FOIA request to obtain) is held by a Federal agency.
A federal agency is a government agency.

You added to this idea by saying info about crimes should be withheld from the public until a hearing and conviction occurs.

These are both advocating control censorship by the US government.

Look idiot, if you refuse to comprehend what is there because your relaxed brain only allows you to see things your way, you may need to seek help. FOIA is PUBLIC INFORMATION DIPSHIT. It's not censored nor on lockdown. IS IT???? I have explained the post like 3 damn times now and you have shown to be too stupid to understand it 3 damn times. Phuck off already.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Look idiot, if you refuse to comprehend what is there because your relaxed brain only allows you to see things your way, you may need to seek help. FOIA is PUBLIC INFORMATION DIPSHIT. It's not censored nor on lockdown. IS IT???? I have explained the post like 3 damn times now and you have shown to be too stupid to understand it 3 damn times. Phuck off already.

OK, so you really are clueless about this topic.
FOIA is not information. It is the Freedom Of Information Act. An “act” is also known as a law. This particular law allows for the request by Joe Citizen of information being held/controlled by FEDERAL agencies.
This LAW carries no weight for info held/controlled by Congress, courts, state or local government agencies.

If the information was public, there would be no need to file a FOIA request to view it. It would be (hold your hat) PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.
The fact that you can’t access the info without a FOIA request means it indeed IS being “locked down”.

If you are genuinely confused by this concept, the LAST thing you should do is call others stupid when they are the ones pointing out your lack of understanding.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

OK, so you really are clueless about this topic.
FOIA is not information. It is the Freedom Of Information Act. An “act” is also known as a law. This particular law allows for the request by Joe Citizen of information being held/controlled by FEDERAL agencies.
This LAW carries no weight for info held/controlled by Congress, courts, state or local government agencies.

If the information was public, there would be no need to file a FOIA request to view it. It would be (hold your hat) PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.
The fact that you can’t access the info without a FOIA request means it indeed IS being “locked down”.

If you are genuinely confused by this concept, the LAST thing you should do is call others stupid when they are the ones pointing out your lack of understanding.

You know how everyone knows you were wrong from the beginning? You go and find definitions and continue to argue to no end.

Let's see if you can answer direct questions since you want to keep your ignorance going.

Rob, does the news need to tell you a persons ****** identity if they are accused of a crime?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You know how everyone knows you were wrong from the beginning? You go and find definitions and continue to argue to no end.

Let's see if you can answer direct questions since you want to keep your ignorance going.

Rob, does the news need to tell you a persons ****** identity if they are accused of a crime?

I already knew you were wrong. I provide the definitions because you would undoubtedly say I was making it up if I used my own words to explain things.

For fvck sake, you’ve even gone as far as saying the dictionary definitions are wrong.

The news doesn’t need to tell us ANYTHING. It’s a private industry, and they get to tell us as little or as much of the story as they want.
Welcome to America.

Why do you feel public information should be locked down by the government and released only when someone demonstrates a valid need?
Do you think jail rosters and warrant lists should be public access?
If you do, what demographics should be included on the lists?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I already knew you were wrong. I provide the definitions because you would undoubtedly say I was making it up if I used my own words to explain things.

For fvck sake, you’ve even gone as far as saying the dictionary definitions are wrong.

The news doesn’t need to tell us ANYTHING. It’s a private industry, and they get to tell us as little or as much of the story as they want.
Welcome to America.

Why do you feel public information should be locked down by the government and released only when someone demonstrates a valid need?
Do you think jail rosters and warrant lists should be public access?
If you do, what demographics should be included on the lists?

So you can't answer direct questions with direct answers. Good to know.

Right, they don't NEED to tell us anything. A point I made already.

I never said public information should be locked down. That's you and your brain saying that shit.

Now, public information is what? I will tell you...

The term 'public information' means any information, regardless of form or format, that an agency discloses, disseminates, or makes available to the public.

This means if the news doesn't give us the information... it's not public information. HOWEVER, the arresting entity has the information. It's not on lockdown, it's just there. We are allowed to ask for it and they are required to give it to us. They are not required to just disclose it to please you in some way. So I ask you, why are you so against asking for the information? Why do you feel so entitled that you think the news should just give you all the information from the word go?

Tell me how knowing any information helps you. What does it help you do? Why do you need the information?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

So you can't answer direct questions with direct answers. Good to know.

Stop trying to tap dance around. Here’s the direct answer to your question. The same answer I gave in the previous post: “The news doesn’t need to tell us ANYTHING. It’s a private industry, and they get to tell us as little or as much of the story as they want.”
The question I answered:”Rob, does the news need to tell you a persons ****** identity if they are accused of a crime?”

Right, they don't NEED to tell us anything. A point I made already.

If they didn’t tell us anything, then they wouldn’t be “news” outlets.

I never said public information should be locked down. That's you and your brain saying that shit.

You said the information should have to be obtained and not openly disseminated. You suggested a FOIA request be required, and a need demonstrated.
That means by default the info is “locked down”.

Now, public information is what? I will tell you...

The term 'public information' means any information, regardless of form or format, that an agency discloses, disseminates, or makes available to the public.

This means if the news doesn't give us the information... it's not public information. HOWEVER, the arresting entity has the information. It's not on lockdown, it's just there. We are allowed to ask for it and they are required to give it to us. They are not required to just disclose it to please you in some way. So I ask you, why are you so against asking for the information? Why do you feel so entitled that you think the news should just give you all the information from the word go?

“Makes available to the public”. That means open disclosure, NOT disclosure by special request.
A jail roster on a county website is public. Information about an SEC investigation is not public, but can be obtained with a FOIA.
A city budget is public, but a UFO sighting investigation might not be public, yet obtained with a FOIA.
IF a FOIA is needed, the info is NOT public.

Tell me how knowing any information helps you. What does it help you do? Why do you need the information?

This has no relevance to whether it should be locked down by the government, any more than you should have to prove a NEED to have subwoofers in your car, or a NEED to be an armed citizen, a NEED to practice whatever religion you choose, a NEED to have Gilet Mignon instead of top round.
Public information should be just what the words say: PUBLIC INFORMATION

Why is that such a foreign concept to you?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You said the information should have to be obtained and not openly disseminated. You suggested a FOIA request be required, and a need demonstrated.
That means by default the info is “locked down”.

See, you are a moron. This IS why I can't talk to you. You're stupid.

I did not say the information "should have to be obtained". I said if you really NEED the information you should/could be able to FOIA the information. Meaning take your lazy asss down and get it. I never once said the FOIA request should be REQUIRED and a need demonstrated. You are a ******** liar and are literally making shit up now. You made the statement of "locked down" and now you are making shit up to support your spin.

Still you can't tell me how knowing the personal information helps you in any way. Is it because it doesn't and wont and you are just an entitled pos that thinks the world revolves around him?

 

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[RobGMN Premium Member]

See, you are a moron. This IS why I can't talk to you. You're stupid.

I did not say the information "should have to be obtained". I said if you really NEED the information you should/could be able to FOIA the information. Meaning take your lazy asss down and get it. I never once said the FOIA request should be REQUIRED and a need demonstrated. You are a ******** liar and are literally making shit up now. You made the statement of "locked down" and now you are making shit up to support your spin.

If you are saying a FOIA request is a way to get the info, then you are saying by default the info is to be inaccessible WITHOUT the special request.
Do you REALLY not understand this yet?
You can’t just go and look up this stuff at a library, or log onto a website, or “go down and get it”.
IT IS AVAILABLE BY FOIA REQUEST ONLY.
THAT MEANS IT IS NON-PUBLIC, LOCKED-DOWN INFORMATION. PERIOD.
And the FOIA request is for federal agencies ONLY.

Still you can't tell me how knowing the personal information helps you in any way. Is it because it doesn't and wont and you are just an entitled pos that thinks the world revolves around him?

WHAT THE INFORMATION IS USED FOR OR WANTED FOR HAS NO RELEVANCE TO PUBLIC INFO.
THIS IS WHY IT IS CALLED “PUBLIC INFO”.

I’ll ask again: do you think jail rosters should be posted publicly? Do you think warrant lists should be posted publicly?
If you do, what demographic information do you find acceptable for such lists?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

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[ThxOne Premium Member]

If you are saying a FOIA request is a way to get the info, then you are saying by default the info is to be inaccessible WITHOUT the special request.
Do you REALLY not understand this yet?

I am not saying anything by default, YOU ARE. Then you are arguing about it. FOIA is not a "special request" it is a way for the public to gain information freely. It would be EXACTLY like me having information about something and then you asking me for the information. Apparently you FEEL that if you have to get off your lazy backside and go get the information, you have been violated in some way or denied something in some way. Get off your high horse already.

You can’t just go and look up this stuff at a library, or log onto a website, or “go down and get it”.
IT IS AVAILABLE BY FOIA REQUEST ONLY.
THAT MEANS IT IS NON-PUBLIC, LOCKED-DOWN INFORMATION. PERIOD.
And the FOIA request is for federal agencies ONLY.

The ****** identity of a school shooter is only available by FOIA and is on lock down and is not public information? Do you not see how dramatic you are acting? As soon as the information is requested, it becomes public record. There is no lock, there is no key needed. Just because it is not disclosed to you immediately does not mean it is being concealed or locked down.

WHAT THE INFORMATION IS USED FOR OR WANTED FOR HAS NO RELEVANCE TO PUBLIC INFO.
THIS IS WHY IT IS CALLED “PUBLIC INFO”.

Again, why would YOU need to know the shooters ****** identity? How does that help you?

I’ll ask again: do you think jail rosters should be posted publicly? Do you think warrant lists should be posted publicly?
If you do, what demographic information do you find acceptable for such lists?

Irrelevant to this conversation. This is about why you and Jimi77 "NEED" to know a school shooters ****** identity and me saying it's not relevant for the news to report and wanting to know why you "NEED" to know. Apparently you two have no idea why you "NEED" to know since I can't get a straight answer out of you. Maybe neither of you know and you just want to argue? Who knows.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I am still trying to figure out why the world puts up with people like Putin, Xi, and Un when all they do is keep the people down and start shit with the rest of the world. Do these people not realize that once they are gone they can live in far less fear.