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[RobGMN Premium Member]

This is the same lady that supports him to this day? I’m Not sure I believe you’ve read public documents, I can’t find them. I think you read a website that too,d you what to believe.

Just Google "Ivana sworn deposition ****".

I gave you the Court case number regarding the 13 y.o. girl. I figured you would find court documents more credible than my statement that the suit was brought against him. Do you know how to look at the docs? I can help you if not.

She's dead, BTW. He buried her on his golf course. (Ivana)

 

[SlugButter]

Are you suggesting that I disbelieve that the jury made the correct decision simply because Trump is a Republican? If he was a Democrat, would the decision then have been proper and correct?

I'm not sure how a congregation defending a dirty priest ties in to Trump losing this case that was decided on by a jury.
Do you think the jury was tainted in some way?

I believe you haven’t read the facts at all. You haven’t produced a single shred of evidence on a government website yet. Youve established the “produce evidence” standard in this thread. I don’t really care to be honest. I hope he goes to prison right along side Biden and id like to see evidence that would do that, but you don’t have any. Id have a personal discussion with you on this, but you dont have discussions based on opinion and feelings, so I guess we don’t have much to talk about.

 

[SlugButter]

It’s a fvcked world when someone smart like Rob will believe Trump rapes people based on only a testimony from another angry liberal cvnt that he hasn’t even read, yet the Biden family can start up limited liability companies all over the world to filter money to Biden family members from foreign countries and that “isn’t evidence of anything”.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I believe you haven’t read the facts at all. You haven’t produced a single shred of evidence on a government website yet. Youve established the “produce evidence” standard in this thread. I don’t really care to be honest. I hope he goes to prison right along side Biden and id like to see evidence that would do that, but you don’t have any. Id have a personal discussion with you on this, but you dont have discussions based on opinion and feelings, so I guess we don’t have much to talk about.

I'll try again in case it got moved to a previous page too quickly:
Case 1:16-cv-07673-RA
Seen in the Southern District of New York
This is a the court case involving the 13 y.o. girl and Trump at an Epstein party.

Once again, i am not the court system. I am not an attorney. i am not a judge. i did not write the COTUS.
I get to choose whether I will simply believe something, or whether I will want evidence to believe it. When things sound like bullshit to me, i am far more likely to want evidence before I will believe. othe people may not be that way. Other people may believe simply because they WANT to, or maybe because it helps support the narrative they like.

Did I attend the hearing regarding Trump? No. Do I believe it happened? Yes. Do I believe the jury judged that he did not **** her but sexually abused and defamed her? Yes.
I have no reason to think that there is a massive conspiracy afoot to give false info about the decision, yet no one has noticed the lie.

What charges do you want to see Biden convicted of and sent to prison for?

Sorry, I don't think discussions of things like law, economics, mathematics, science, and the like, are really places to be debating with feelings and personal opinions. Especially when most everything about those subjects can be verified factually in some way.
It's hard to say my opinion is that 4x4=21, or that an 8" woofer can play louder and deeper than a 15" woofer when it can handily be proved otherwise.

If you want to get into a feelings and opinions discussion, that would be better served with more subjective topics like which genre of music is best, or which flavor of ice cream is best, or maybe the best way to prepare a shell steak. None of those things can be proved, so feelings and opinions are 100% the argument for them

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

It’s a fvcked world when someone smart like Rob will believe Trump rapes people based on only a testimony from another angry liberal cvnt that he hasn’t even read, yet the Biden family can start up limited liability companies all over the world to filter money to Biden family members from foreign countries and that “isn’t evidence of anything”.

Do you think that Trump's case is the very first he said/she said case in history, and that it is the very first time the preponderance of evidence standard has been used, or are you just angry that there was a case against him and he lost?
Do you think every other he said/she said case in history has been similarly incorrect in the way the proceedings happened?

I'm not sure of your reference to worldwide LLCs set up by the Biden family. Is there evidence that they were setting up companies illegally? If not, remember that testimony can be evidence. if you want to, you could take the family to court if you feel their business dealings have somehow hurt you. Provide credible testimony of your pain and suffering and you could be awarded a settlement.

You could probably go after DJT also, given the number of companies he owns and companies he deals with worldwide. Especially since he deals with Saudi Arabia, where 15 of the 9/11 terrorists came from.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

No one with common sense is saying we shouldn’t have regulations. I think we should, even though I think it’s a losing fight. It’s a luke warm solution to a hot problem. The supply of guns isn’t going to be stopped even with a whole ban of guns unfortunately. I suppose we have to try still. If we ban guns, a factory in China will immediately start manufacturing them at a rate of thousands per day, which will then be transported to a port in Mexico where the cartels run the local government. Those guns will then fill the black market, just like fentanyl. Since the same party pushing to take guns won’t also close the border, the problem will get worse actually. Access to illegal guns will get easier. It doesn’t seem like the life in prison regulation is even working. I have 0 faith in this incompetent government to get something like this done even if it was possible.

I never said ban guns. And even countries that ban guns don't actually ban guns, they strictly regulate them. We know Aubrey Hale, the Nashville shooter, was under a doctor's care for an "emotional disorder," yet she was out there buying up a small armory completely legally.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I’m just not for shaping the minds of people. If people want chaplains I wouldn’t stand in the way of it. And I don’t want to hear the tax money BS. We literally give 10x more money to local crack wh0res to have babies than we do to provide people with a chaplain. It’s called being humane in my opinion. I think we should feed the crack wh0res baby and provide chaplains. I used to be antireligious also, but as I grow older it just seems arrogant to think I can decide what another person is better off believing. Fvck it. Let’s have a religious class in public school that teaches about every religion and has open discussions about spirituality. We should go the opposite direction that politicians want us to go.

Ironically neither party wants to go in "your" direction. It's either indoctrination or nothing. That said there were plenty of comparative religion or religious literature classes in my state college. Lets be honest about the party that wants to religion in schools, it's not about spirituality, it's about indoctrination.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Drugs are being decriminalization at a rapid rate in major cities...

How's that working out? I'm in Denver, one of the centers of decriminalization, and I'm not impressed.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

He wasn't being called as a witness. He was not legally required to be at the hearing.
It may have been a dumb move for him to choose not to testify, but it may also have been the best move given his penchant for fvcking up his public speaking.

If Trump would have shown up, he would have buried himself. It would have been glorious...

Prosecution: Have you ever meet E Jean?
Trump: I don't know who she is, she's not my type.
Prosecution: Then why did you mistake her for your wife in this photo?
Trump: FAKE NEWS, FAKE NEWS!!!

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Imagine a **** case where the defendant doesn’t even have to appear without a warrant being issued for failure to appear. These idiots in New York can’t even get criminal misdemeanor for failure to appear in a **** case, yet somehow it’s a legitimate case. That’s about as LOL as it can get.

It wasn't a **** case, it was a defamation case.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I’m sure he was a vulgar dick. Usually when someone doesn’t show up to a legitimate court case there is a bench warrant put out and he is arrested. It’s called a failure to appear, which Im sure you know. If there was a shred of evidence that a male ***** a female, why is that warrant not already filed?

Again, not a **** trail. Defamation trial. Judges don't hand out warrants and prosecutors don't seek warrants for crimes outside the statute of limitations.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Yes. Pure coincidence. Trump awarded $5million by a jury in a case involving him and a **** accusation. Then “we” just have a discussion out of the blue about ****, court cases regarding ****, jury decisions in those court cases.
Nothing at all to do with Trump.

Were you hit on the head as a kid? By a bus? Cool, we know how the conversation started. It started about Trump then shifted to **** then you asking me questions about **** not Trump.

I checked my PMs and there are no messages from you in there. We did not have “our own conversation”. Anything said was in this public thread which is a conversation between any and all parties who participate.

Nobody said privately. When a conversation is back and forth such as you and I were doing then WE WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION. You asked me questions and I responded, I asked you questions as well. A conversation.

OK. You just felt out of the blue like having a chat about **** and how juries work in a **** trial. NOTHING to do with the headlines about him that were posted immediately before you had the idea to discuss your feelings about it.

No, not out of the blue Mr. Memory.
"You yourself have said you would not believe a woman was ***** unless you saw it happen in person, yet you place faith in everyone else to not have the same attitude.
Sadly, too many of them do.
Information on why people don't report ****** assault: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7298584/
It's easy to to simplify and say "well, they should just report it". It's also easy to say "people should just stop being alcoholics" or "people should just stop committing crime". Right?
I mean, "just stop" really worked well when Gov. Abbott stopped **** in order to say abortion will not be necessary in the case of ****. Right?"

And when you said he didn’t do it, you weren’t talking about Trump.
Got it.

All before you engaged me in a conversation about my opinions on convicting someone of ****. SOMEONE, not Trump.

So when I post a Federal regulation, that is my “opinion”?
When I post economic stats, they are my “opinion”?
When I post data from a medical textbook…”opinion”?
Gas price history? Also “opinion”?

Do you actually know what opinion means? Your post suggests you don’t.

Oh here you go, let's change the argument again.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Joe Biden tells Howard University graduates white supremacy is ‘most dangerous terrorist threat’

President Biden warned Howard University graduates on Saturday to fear the rise of white supremacy as the greatest terrorist threat facing America.

m.washingtontimes.com

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

She (Ivana) said it under oath during a deposition for their divorce settlement. I do not have the deposition, but I believe they were unsealed. There are literally hundreds of references to it if you do a quick search. I haven't found any instances where Trump denied what she accused him of, though he pleaded the 5th ninety-seven times in their divorce case when asked if he cheated on her.

The court case of the accusations regarding him and a 13 y.o. girl: Case 1:16-cv-07673-RA
Seen in the Southern District of New York.

He was also accused by a business associate (Jill Harth) and some 22 other women in the past 40 years.

You know, people on this forum have told YOU to go "look it up" and you talked shit. Now you are telling us to do quick searches??? HAHAHA.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Sorry, I don't think discussions of things like law, economics, mathematics, science, and the like, are really places to be debating with feelings and personal opinions. Especially when most everything about those subjects can be verified factually in some way.
It's hard to say my opinion is that 4x4=21, or that an 8" woofer can play louder and deeper than a 15" woofer when it can handily be proved otherwise.

Yet that is what you are doing. Arguing your feelings. You have no evidence in the Trump case, just the outcome and you FEEL it was the correct outcome but have no evidence to support that feeling.