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I’m sorry dude, I don’t even like Trump that much, but you need to get your brain scanned and show it to us to see if there’s anything wrong going on in there. Trump was the biggest border hawk we’ve had in modern times. I mean, he wanted to literally go to war with the cartels, use the military, stuff like that, because they’re killing people in mass with drugs, and they’re human trafficking tons of people, where many kids and women get ***** as they’re trafficked. That’s just an absurd statement from you. Biden, by FAR, has basically flooded our country with people who don’t care about our country, and you’re really something special, if you don’t understand that. You definitely don’t understand a damn thing about warfare.

"Wanting" to do things, and actually DOING them are two very distinctly different things.
Much like his desire and claims to be the best and the smartest at everything, he simply didn't walk the walk.

Statistics prove that he was actually weaker on border control than Biden has been, by far. The influx of illegals under Trump was the highest it had been since the early 2000's, but apprehensions and border encounters did not rise commensurately. FFS, what is currently called "The Border Crisis" actually began while Trump was in office. You want to blame Biden for what happened whiel Trump was POTUS? That's rich.
Crossings/attempts have certainly risen under Biden, but the increase in encounters/apprehensions grew at a rate FAR faster than they did under Trump. That's a fact, not a conjecture.

And no, the stats aren't faked. They're provided by the same people that have been providing them for decades. They didn't lie in 2000 with the plan to make Trump look bad in 2017.

because they’re killing people in mass with drugs, and they’re human trafficking tons of people, where many kids and women get ***** as they’re trafficked

Talking points, but not relevant at all to the statistics of who was more effective against illegal immigration control. And again, the stats are in favor of Biden. I've posted them many times here. if you think they are incorrect, go ahead and provide some data and explanation of where the numbers are wrong.
Going off on weird tangents doesn't prove your argument for you. It just indicates your argument likely has no substance behind it.

 

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We had a problem. Trump was doing a poor job at controlling our borders.

We had a problem. Trump was doing a poor job at controlling our borders.

I challenge you to find any video of any border patrol agent, or any other agency (Sheriff, Local Police, Homeland Security) etc. . . claiming that border security is better under Biden then Trump

 

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MPI. A LIBERAL think-tank, provides some stats of Biden's work against illegal immigration:
While Donald Trump’s presidency is perceived as being the most active on immigration, touching nearly every aspect of the U.S. immigration system, President Joe Biden’s administration has far outpaced his predecessor in the number of executive actions taken during his first year in office. Yet the Biden administration’s pace of change has largely gone unnoticed, with immigrant-rights activists accusing it of going too slowly to unravel Trump actions and conservatives harshly critical of what they see as inattention to rising flows at the U.S.-Mexico border.

The Migration Policy Institute (MPI) logged 296 executive actions on immigration taken by the administration as of January 19—one day before Biden’s first anniversary in office. By contrast, the Trump administration carried out 86 executive actions during its first year and 472 over its four-year term, MPI analysts have found.

Biden at the One-Year Mark: A Greater Change in Direction on Immigration Than Is Recognized

While Donald Trump’s presidency is perceived as being the most active on immigration, touching nearly every aspect of the U.S. immigration system, President Joe Biden’s administration has far outpaced his predecessor in the number of executive actions taken during his first year in office—even...

www.migrationpolicy.org

 

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WOW. look at NoName post memes as fast as possible every time a cogent argument is made that Trump failed.
Almost like a Russian bot trying to protect the boss.

 

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I challenge you to find any video of any border patrol agent, or any other agency (Sheriff, Local Police, Homeland Security) etc. . . claiming that border security is better under Biden then Trump

That's like thinking "survey says" is proof of ANYTHING.

The same agencies that have been reporting stats since LONG before Trump or Biden were in office are doing it now.
The stats they report show that it's better under Biden.

Again, anyone who wants to dispute the stats can explain the errors they see, and explain how the agencies reporting them knew to fudge the numbers in 2000 to make Trump look bad in 2023.

I'm open to facts and figures, but not "so-and-so SAYS", or "we all know", or "because I said so", or dumbass memes full of false info (like NoName loves to post). That stuff is all just crap to me.
Show me the data.

Encounters are at record highs, but Biden is "doing nothing" about it?
That makes ZERO sense.
Wouldn't they be at record LOWS if he was allowing the influx?

 

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