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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Yes. It seems Spokey is trying to help you explain but doesn't understand the concepts and it just muddying your waters. He seems to think a prefab is custom-made to match driver parameters and vehicle acoustics.

What methods do you use to verify the potential variances in the T/S parameters from the published specs?
What do you use to adjust your boxes for the interiors of different vehicles?

Prefabs can be matched to driver parameters, I’ve done that a good bit, not quite as much vehicle acoustics. Vehicle acoustics are largely what they are, as in no matter what the vehicle acoustics are, you generally have to tune to achieve the bandwidth you want out of the woofer, regardless of how the cabin boosts it. Like if someone wants a response of say 25-60 hz or 30-80 hz or whatever, you have to tune to a specific frequency to meet that bandwidth goal, usually, regardless of how much the cabin gain boosts certain parts of the bass’s response curve. There are vehicles that peak super low, naturally, so sometimes you can tune higher and still play super low, due to cabin-gain loading of the box, but usually vehicles I design boxes for resonate higher than the box tuning. There’s so many factors that change what things resonate at, like if it’s 100 degrees outside or 0 degrees, that’s a change in resonance.

T/s parameters are relative to themselves. Like say if you get t/s from a barely played woofer vs a woofer with a lot of time on it: the t/s will be different, but they will or should be relative to themselves, as in they both can describe the nature of the woofer, even with the variances between the two. A woofer with zero playing time with t/s pulled might not accurately represent the nature of the woofer.

Companies like Skar sometimes seem to mix broken in t/s with no play time t/s, and that causes problems, but there’s formulas with t/s where you can cross check them with each other, if you have enough of the individual t/s numbers. So you can use some t/s parameters to find the other t/s parameters that seem off and to double check the quality of the t/s. You have to do it a while to know what to look for.

I can often tell if a sub has a progressive vs linear spider pack based on the t/s parameters. That tends to get harder to do, from my experience, with more powerful woofers or woofers with higher Mms’s. Designing for a certain response is much more than simply knowing t/s or knowing cabin resonance on a certain day.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

That is a statement. A true statement. A person that carries around a BAG of COKE probably would fail a drug test. Maybe in your stupidity and weird need to argue every damn thing you missed the point. But then again, your goal is literally to argue.

So anyone who fails a drug test must have dropped the coke.
What if 157 people fail the test?
What if a staffer fails a test but the coke was dropped by someone who never gets tested?

You won't believe a woman when she says she was *****, yet you think a failed drug test will tell us who left the coke at the White House.
You are beyond clueless.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

So anyone who fails a drug test must have dropped the coke.
What if 157 people fail the test?
What if a staffer fails a test but the coke was dropped by someone who never gets tested?

You won't believe a woman when she says she was *****, yet you think a failed drug test will tell us who left the coke at the White House.
You are beyond clueless.

If 157 people frequenting the wh are using coke...then there's a whole new problem.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Listen up cowardly lion. Cocaine is illegal. You should be concerned that such an illegal substance made it into the white house. But you are a coward and a clown and as long as it isn't done by Trump you are cool with the law breaking. Go eat some shit you p**sy.

It could be from a Republican, Democrat, or Independent kid. Nobody knows. Are you naive enough to think that they strip search everybody who enters The White House? Do you really think that politicians don't do drugs? Your cult is too funny.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So anyone who fails a drug test must have dropped the coke.

Is that the way YOU see it?

What if 157 people fail the test?

Now you are being hypothetical instead of realistic. Pick a lane and stay in it Rob.

What if a staffer fails a test but the coke was dropped by someone who never gets tested?

Then the staffer is fired. We are talking about the White House. National Security Risk. A person willing to break the law so easily could be compromised to give away secrets. Use your brain, if you have one.

You won't believe a woman when she says she was *****, yet you think a failed drug test will tell us who left the coke at the White House.

A failed drug test is a lead.

You are beyond clueless.

And you like 2nd grade girls...................... and grown men.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Prefabs can be matched to driver parameters, I’ve done that a good bit, not quite as much vehicle acoustics. Vehicle acoustics are largely what they are, as in no matter what the vehicle acoustics are, you generally have to tune to achieve the bandwidth you want out of the woofer, regardless of how the cabin boosts it. Like if someone wants a response of say 25-60 hz or 30-80 hz or whatever, you have to tune to a specific frequency to meet that bandwidth goal, usually, regardless of how much the cabin gain boosts certain parts of the bass’s response curve. There are vehicles that peak super low, naturally, so sometimes you can tune higher and still play super low, due to cabin-gain loading of the box, but usually vehicles I design boxes for resonate higher than the box tuning. There’s so many factors that change what things resonate at, like if it’s 100 degrees outside or 0 degrees, that’s a change in resonance.

T/s parameters are relative to themselves. Like say if you get t/s from a barely played woofer vs a woofer with a lot of time on it: the t/s will be different, but they will or should be relative to themselves, as in they both can describe the nature of the woofer, even with the variances between the two. A woofer with zero playing time with t/s pulled might not accurately represent the nature of the woofer.

Companies like Skar sometimes seem to mix broken in t/s with no play time t/s, and that causes problems, but there’s formulas with t/s where you can cross check them with each other, if you have enough of the individual t/s numbers. So you can use some t/s parameters to find the other t/s parameters that seem off and to double check the quality of the t/s. You have to do it a while to know what to look for.

I can often tell if a sub has a progressive vs linear spider pack based on the t/s parameters. That tends to get harder to do, from my experience, with more powerful woofers or woofers with higher Mms’s. Designing for a certain response is much more than simply knowing t/s or knowing cabin resonance on a certain day.

Uh oh. You just ruined Spokey's claim that you make prefabs that are customized to match a vehicle's acoustic properties/interactions.
He's going to feel sad now. Maybe he needs to spend some time at a shop where they do audio maths.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Uh oh. You just ruined Spokey's claim that you make prefabs that are customized to match a vehicle's acoustic properties/interactions.
He's going to feel sad now. Maybe he needs to spend some time at a shop where they do audio maths.

Where did I claim that?...seems you on a roll making sh!t up today Mr Secretary

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

It could be from a Republican, Democrat, or Independent kid. Nobody knows. Are you naive enough to think that they strip search everybody who enters The White House? Do you really think that politicians don't do drugs? Your cult is too funny.

Nobody is eluding to any of that you jackasss. Now, go back to not protecting your kids, coward.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Nah...I'm not a dumbazz that it's normal to drop a baggie in the wh...but I guess you can overlook anything if it helps your team

Who said it was from a Democrat? Are Republicans not allowed in The White House anymore? More conspiracy theories from the MAGA cult.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Who said it was from a Democrat? Are Republicans not allowed in The White House anymore? More conspiracy theories from the MAGA cult.

You are literally the person making this about political parties. Damn you are dumb.

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Who said it was from a Democrat? Are Republicans not allowed in The White House anymore? More conspiracy theories from the MAGA cult.

Don't play that sh!t...you know full well you'd blame Trump in the same scenario...

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Buck is the village pedo. He's the only one who has posted child **** on here. He's admitted to posting it and having it saved in his computer. Thxone likes to beat up women. He's admitted doing it.

Are you a felon?

 

[YourNameHere 10+ year member]