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I agree on the plant life. In the end it doesn't matter, I've come to accept that we will continue to both pump co2 into the atmosphere and kill off plant life.
Jim: co2 does not kill off plant life. Co2 is what plants breathe. The planet gets greener from more co2; that’s a fact. The toxic forever chemicals from river drainage into the oceans have damaged aquatic plant life that’s responsible for 50%+ of earths oxygen production, not to mention deforestation. That plant life lives in the first few feet at the top of the ocean. With less plant life converting co2 into oxygen, our atmosphere starts degrading and shrinking. The shrinking/thinning of our atmosphere causes significantly more solar and cosmic radiation to make it to the surface of earth, and that’s where climate instability comes from. You wind up with more extremes of both heat and cold, like deserts do, because of the extreme cycling of solar radiation that makes it to the surface. If you want a stable surface for life on earth, we have to have a fat, juicey atmosphere.

Nuclear atmospheric testing harmed the atmosphere. That’s a whole other subject, talking about climate instability.
 
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I ain't saying ignore and it wouldn't hurt none to cut back when technology actually gets to where we can...but even if we never started the industrial revolution...sooner or later the climate would've changed enough to cause a panic anyways

Agreed. And part of the reason I think we should reduce fossil fuel use is because it is a valuable commodity that should be conserved rather than burnt thru as quickly as possible. Plus we're just ridiculously inefficient with it's use - ie all the "Monster Trucks" on the roads.
 
Jim: co2 does not kill off plant life. Co2 is what plants breathe. The planet gets greener from more co2; that’s a fact. The toxic forever chemicals from river drainage into the oceans have damaged aquatic plant life that’s responsible for 50%+ of earths oxygen production, not to mention deforestation. That plant life lives in the first few feet at the top of the ocean. With less plant life converting co2 into oxygen, our atmosphere starts degrading and shrinking.

I know plants breathe co2.
The shrinking/thinning of our atmosphere causes significantly more solar and cosmic radiation to make it to the surface of earth, and that’s where climate instability comes from. You wind up with more extremes of both heat and cold, like deserts do, because of the extreme cycling of solar radiation that makes it to the surface. If you want a stable surface for life on earth, we have to have a fat, juicey atmosphere.

Nuclear atmospheric testing harmed the atmosphere. That’s a whole other subject, talking about climate instability.
Or we could block out that solar radiation. ;) I can guarantee you this. We aren't cutting back on fossil fuels and we aren't going to stop deforestation, dumping plastics and forever chemicals into the ocean, etc.
 
Looks like I blew virtue signalling out my arse. I though "virtue signalling" meant "virtue" = "signalling," as in "look at me I've done something virtuous." Totally explains why people are attaching the phrase to things that aren't really that virtuous.

Let's look at few words of import here dictionary.com definition followed by the Oxford/Google definition:

Virtue: noun: moral EXCELLENCE; goodness; righteousness OR behavior showing HIGH moral standards.

Moral(s): noun: principles or habits with respect to right or wrong conduct OR a person's standards of behavior or beliefs concerning what is and is not acceptable for THEM to do.

So in essence Virtue is Morals on steroids. For example, not cheating on my wife is moral behavior. Joining a Monestary would be virtuous.

To nail down Morals a bit, I think it's important to note the THEM in the Oxford definition. So it would be immoral for me to get married to another woman while I'm married to my wife. OTOH, that would be perfectly moral behavior to a Mormon or a Muslim. Celebrating the Sabbath on Saturday might be considered immoral by some Christians, but would be considered good moral behavior among Jews. So my morals don't extend to you and your morals don't extend to me.

Here's the issue "Virtue Signaling" is a (usually) derogatory term and really has nothing to do with virtue (as it's commonly used).

Virtue Signaling: nonu: the sharing of one's point of view on a social or political issue, often on social media, in order to garner praise or acknowledgment of one’s righteousness from others who share that point of view, or to passively rebuke those who do not: OR the public expression of opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or social conscience or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.

Personally, I find the Dictionary.com definition problematic, because of the passive aggressive behavior (passively rebuke). The passive aggressive behavior part would rule out just anything about posted in Thunderdome, because we're openly aggressive in here. Furthermore, I'd suggest the first part about seeking praise or acknowledgment doesn't apply in here because I seriously doubt that is anybody's motive when they are posting in here. Another problem have with both definitions is that we have to know the signaler's intent.

I don't care for the way the phrase is used because (generally) people are just assuming intent and because of the word "Virtue." For example, I would never say "I got the jab, therefore I'm virtuous person." If somebody tells me they were motivated to get the jab for the greater good, I wouldn't call that virtuous behavior. It's somebody doing the bare minimum and risking nothing (assuming they don't view the vax as risky). Basically it's barely even moral behavior and as I discussed earlier morality is subjective. Getting the jab is doing next to nothing and hardly virtuous. Healthcare workers who endured long hours with no vaccine protection and PPE shortages working in Covid wards and watching people slowly die from a disease that they were willingly exposing themselves to, now that's virtue. So it seems to me "virtue signaling" isn't used in a way that is consistent with the definition because the users are 1) assuming the signaler's intent. 2) They're assuming the signaler (who has usually done some bare minimum act, like posting their political beliefs or putting a rainbow sticker on their car) thinks their behavior is virtuous (aka SUPER moral). Since that's two assumptions, a little matrix math tells they're down to 25% probability of being correct. So it seems the only thing consistent with how the phrase is currently being used is that it's used as a derogatory. Maybe if users of "virtue signaling" stuck to just things that the majority would actually consider virtuous then they could get to 50/50 on whether they have an actual case of virtue signaling on their hands.
 

Ai can map the whole surface of the earth, iirc google is doing it. That’s the whole point of AI is to map everything on earth live time 24/7 so they can predict the future before it happens with high qubit quantum computers, and introduce stimuli before the future unfolds to control the way the future unfolds. Sundar Pichai talks about it. Cell towers are similar tech.

That vid reminds me of this:

 
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Ai can map the whole surface of the earth, iirc google is doing it. That’s the whole point of AI is to map everything on earth live time 24/7 so they can predict the future before it happens with high qubit quantum computers, and introduce stimuli before the future unfolds to control the way the future unfolds. Sundar Pichai talks about it. Cell towers are similar tech.

That vid reminds me of this:


Like Batman says "too much power to in the hands of one man." Put it the hands of many men - aka the gov't. j/k
 
The United Nations caused this, by forcing nations to accept migration into Europe (doing the same in USA), where France was forced to take in a ton of people not from France who don't share their culture or beliefs, so they have no respect for the civilization there. This is why you get a civil war type scenario; it's all a plan to destabilize the west for conquering, all thanks to the UN:

 
They’ve already been geoengineering for decades, and they’re just using the climate hysteria now to justify it. You can’t trust the climate change hysteria, because the gov, military, certain companies, etc., already have multiple ways to change the weather. They’re probably going to intentionally make the weather worse, so they can use that to justify climate lockdowns and radical legislation.

‘Some have even called for fleets of planes to spray chemicals into the atmosphere to deflect the sun's rays as the world's last hope for survival.’

‘Meanwhile, scientists from Harvard University have called for "spraying tiny particles called sulfate aerosols into the atmosphere to reflect away sunlight."




If it’s a clear, sunny sky outside, and then you see a bunch of plane trails, and those plane trails don’t dissipate, but turn into a giant sheet of haze all in the sky that lowers the amount of sunlight, that’s chemtrails (from planes and other sources) combining with water vapor (from the jet turbine combustion) for geoengineering to block out solar radiation.
 
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‘He stated, “Anyone who tells you that we can end the violence to our children that’s going on now by removing people’s guns, in the margin that has been left to us by this very expansive Supreme Court decision [Bruen] is not being truthful with you.”

RFK Jr. stressed that “something has changed in this country. It’s not the guns, we’ve always had the guns.” He believes that policymakers’ attention should shift from firearms to researching how psychiatric drugs have an impact on children.’


 
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