I ran out and bought an Image Dynamics ID12 in case the re foam on the W3 didnt go well. The ID has a significantly better surround, better connectors, seems sturdier, plays a bit louder and deeper in the same box that JL was in, and it cost less than I paid for the JL!!!. The ONLY thing the JL has that is better is the rubber ring that is removable. Other than that there is no comparison between an ID12 and the W3. The ID is not even broke in yet either!!! Im leaving the ID in service. The JL can play spare..