Why did this happen?

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

The suggested "fix" for the problem was using Hurricane nuts.....which are more expensive, harder to find, and require a more accurate hole to be drilled for threading in.
A simple T-Nut is only 15 cents or so at a local hardware store. A complete moron can install a T-Nut without even having to drill an accurate hole. A T-Nut will NOT pull through without considerable force and requires no threading into the wood. That is why a lot of speaker cabinet manufactures for Marshall, Ampeg, Carvin, etc use T-Nuts to hold in speakers on road worthy speaker cabs.

This forum is full of people who want to give advice, but they don't think about how easy it will be for a newbie to find the hardware/tools and be able to install it with zero troubles. Its like telling someone to buy a Time-Cert when they could just tap a hole to the next larger size.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

My local hardware store sells hurricane nuts, and they're no more expensive than t-nuts. Why would I recommend an inferior product? The reason t-nuts don't require as precise of a hole is because they have much more 'give' to them, thus making them a much less secure connection...

EDIT: I was taught with the philosophy "If you don't make time to do it right the first time, you better make time to do it again" And as far as I'm concerned, hurricane nuts are the best long term option. I've used a lot of different mounting hardware over the years and nothing beats hurricane nuts in terms of longevity...

 

[VWBobby 10+ year member]

If you think a T-nut can be pulled through a piece of 3/4" or thicker MDF without using at least 20lbs of torque you are full of it.... Unless you are using a really small diameter. A comparable hurricane nut chips up MDF and is more difficult to install, how is it not an inferior method? This is a moot point. A wood screw or drywall screw is plenty adequate if installed properly.

I like the "drive in a golf tee/dowel and use a new screw" idea best. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

I mount 80 pound subs with 1 1/4" coarse thread drywall screws, besides snapping the heads off of them occasionally over tightening them I don't have any problems with them failing after they're in.

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

If you think a T-nut can be pulled through a piece of 3/4" or thicker MDF without using at least 20lbs of torque you are full of it.... Unless you are using a really small diameter. A comparable hurricane nut chips up MDF and is more difficult to install, how is it not an inferior method? This is a moot point. A wood screw or drywall screw is plenty adequate if installed properly.
I like the "drive in a golf tee/dowel and use a new screw" idea best. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

You obviously don't know how to install hurricane nuts properly...

 

[VWBobby 10+ year member]

I have very little use for hurricane nuts, except in an office bookshelf that came with them. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif I use T-nuts on any replacements or stripped holes in original cabinets for guitar equipment, for the casters.

There is no use for hurricane nuts in car audio.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/face2face.gif.c4346df91ccb89a430ef126c23624157.gif

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

I have very little use for hurricane nuts, except in an office bookshelf that came with them. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif I use T-nuts on any replacements or stripped holes in original cabinets for guitar equipment, for the casters.
There is no use for hurricane nuts in car audio.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/face2face.gif.c4346df91ccb89a430ef126c23624157.gif

The only problem I've ever had with them is getting them aligned properly which was just a result of my poor accuracy. I've used T-nuts before and feel that they are inferior because they don't secure to the wood with any kind of thread, they just have those little barbs in the back that push into the wood like a nail. You can't tell me that's as strong as the hurricane nuts' threaded body griping the MDF throughout the entire hole...I'm not saying T-nuts wouldn't work for his situation or most situations, I just think hurricane nuts are a bit better so I usually recommend them.