why component?

[Beatin' 10+ year member]

Why are people so into component speakers? I've heard some component setups where you had a 5.25 or 6.5 on the door and a tweeter somewhere else. I wasn't really impressed. They don't seem to cover the entire frequency range, at least from 100hz to 20khz.

i notice that the mid "bass" woofer typically will favor the upper octaves from 500-2,000hz, or the lower octaves from 100hz-500hz. It's like you can't have your cake and eat it too.

I always thought that you should have coaxials up front that play 500hz and up, with dedicated true mid bass woofers on the doors or wherever to play strongly in the 500hz and less range.

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[AndrewHD 10+ year member]

People like components because they can be ran active with a processor. This lets you fine tune your system for a much cleaner sound. It does get pretty expensive but the end results are great

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

It would depend on the quality of the speakers and how sealed up and treated the doors are. Did you hear a 2 way component system or 3 way? Also was it an active or passive setup? Lots of factors determine how good your front stage really is.

 

[Beatin' 10+ year member]

It would depend on the quality of the speakers and how sealed up and treated the doors are. Did you hear a 2 way component system or 3 way? Also was it an active or passive setup? Lots of factors determine how good your front stage really is.

2 ways with passive cross overs. i don't know the brands. Apparently they come with 2 tweeters, 2 woofers, and 2 passive cross over units. I've seen them on sonicelectronix and such. But after hearing a few setups, ehh.........I don't approve.

 

[Milk Mayne 10+ year member]

Were they amplified? Honestly anything ran off deck power sounds like poo comparatively.

 

[MANTI5 10+ year member]

I've run both and component wins hands down for me. One of the biggest reasons besides sq is I hate having vocals coming from the floor.

 

[bradl79 10+ year member]

i have tried coax and i love components , i have a set of the cdt cl-62 with imaging tweets and they sound amazing, you can do more with comps with moving to where u want the sound instead of coax is just there

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

2 ways with passive cross overs. i don't know the brands. Apparently they come with 2 tweeters' date=' 2 woofers, and 2 passive cross over units. I've seen them on sonicelectronix and such. But after hearing a few setups, ehh.........I don't approve.[/quote']
either cruddy brand of speakers or cruddy install or like the guy said, cruddy power and poor crossover points. Components always win over coaxes if done right.

 

[trumpet 5,000+ posts]

You'd say they were disappointing regardless of components or coaxials if you had no idea what you were listening to. A good sounding vehicle needs good speakers, but good speakers are always handicapped by the installation and tuning. Most people don't know how to tune.

 

[RoYALbLUE08 10+ year member]

how could you even like sound if its just coming from the floor?

 

[Trey803 5,000+ posts]

I've got my components running passive. Deadener everywhere, custom baffles. Tweeters are mounted in the top of the door panel and pointed at passenger and driver respectively.

Amplified, and eq tuned with an RTA.

The sq is incredible, tunning with the RTA makes a world of a difference. Same with the installation, this could rob your speakers of anything special they've got.

 

[Ge_off_me 5,000+ posts]

Since you are in Michigan, I would love to have you come down to Columbus, Oh for one of our MECA car shows and come listen to some of the SQ cars. None of them use passive crossovers for the most part, and none of them at all use coaxial speakers.

 

[Beatin' 10+ year member]

one of the biggest reasons besides sq is I hate having vocals coming from the floor.

I guess it depends on setup. I got coaxials on the dash firing off the the windsheild. It's hard to justify comps when you have all your mid range and high frequencies in your face. Door woofers shouldn't play so high that you can hear full vocals, only the lowest of harmonics.

But that's just my opinion.........

 

[AL210]

I've had vehicles with door mounted co-ax. The problem for me was that I could never get the high end freq response quite right.

Remember the higher the freq the more directional comes into play. Having recent vehicles that had placement for separate tweeters in the upper front door pillars has made quite a difference in the higher freq response.

Also as others here have said using a amp really makes a component system shine. If your going to use just the head unit power then expect just so-so performance.

 

[Beatin' 10+ year member]

i just don't understand how you cross over comps. You try to cross over a tweeter at 2khz, you're gonna destroy it when it plays down that low. And how the ffff are you going to have a mid bass woofer play a 1-2khz note!?