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[LuNaTiC 10+ year member]

Alot of my family members are very racist to EVERYBODY. You are a proven piece of shit until you prove otherwise... No matter what color of your skin you have.
Equal opportunity for being hated.

But of course this kind of hate is far from the KKK kind of crap... We hate them too.

Your family is ignorant. Rednecks?

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

George bush doesn't like black people...

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

**** em.
I couldn't care less..

I often use the word ****** and I will blatantly let everyone around me kno I don't give a ****. Unless you have proven to me you deserve my respect i'm gonna call you whatever the **** I want.

****** is a white man's word.. Who said they could use it?

I've been so insulted and dis-respected by black people my whole life I couldn't give any less of a thought to me offending them.

Actually that goes the same way for any nationality.. My whole life everyone has been so ****in rude I don't give anyone the respect they think they deserve until they prove to me they deserve it.

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[Wonderbread 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, I see that definition. When you look at history though, and who created racism, it was white people. You can track the creation of "whiteness" and "race" since the induction of slavery, which is why I choose an inheritly biased standpoint in my definition. I do believe race was created by white people, for the benefit of white people.

Slavery hardly marks the start or creation of racism. Take a history class. Slavery existed LONG before the European conquest of Africa. Slavery existed in various forms in Greece, Spain, and Italy long before Africans were used as slaves.

It was a relatively common feature of most feudal systems. It is fair to state that racism was elaborated to help justify it in an increasingly capitalist society however.

Since the beginning of recorded human history, you can see evidence of the creation of various "us versus them" divisions and skin color is the simplest and most obvious one to use.

Again, I'm not arguing in favour of racism in ANY way, I'm just pointing out that your historical and social arguments are a little off.

Also, Flipx99, I've having trouble understanding what you're asking. Is it something like "What if you believe there's a difference, but nothing that creates a heirarchy?" Math has nothing to do with it. If there's something worthy (in your eyes) of creating a difference, it is rarely the case that this divisive action is going to entirely benevolent. Odds are, it'll manifest itself as something negative, ie - one group is better or worse than another.

And, finally, Flipx99, your stance on affirmative action is, in my opinion uninformed. I don't believe that it's racism. It's not designed to necessarily put historically disadvantaged groups in a dominant position. It's design is to help level the playing field. Again, this is a Rawlsian sort of justice, based on the Difference Principle. In short, "Social and economic inequalities are to satisfy two conditions: (a) They are to be attached to positions and offices open to all under conditions of fair equality of opportunity; and (b), they are to be to the greatest benefit of the least advantaged members of society. "

It's a form of distributive justice, easily the most dominant justice paradigm in the United States in the last 30 years.

 

[Wonderbread 5,000+ posts]

**** em.
I couldn't care less..

I often use the word ****** and I will blatantly let everyone around me kno I don't give a ****. Unless you have proven to me you deserve my respect i'm gonna call you whatever the **** I want.

****** is a white man's word.. Who said they could use it?

I've been so insulted and dis-respected by black people my whole life I couldn't give any less of a thought to me offending them.

Actually that goes the same way for any nationality.. My whole life everyone has been so ****in rude I don't give anyone the respect they think they deserve until they prove to me they deserve it.

You're what's wrong with this world.

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

And, finally, Flipx99, your stance on affirmative action is, in my opinion uninformed. I don't believe that it's racism. It's not designed to necessarily put historically disadvantaged groups in a dominant position. It's design is to help level the playing field. Again, this is a Rawlsian sort of justice, based on the Difference Principle. In short, "Social and economic inequalities are to satisfy two conditions: (a) They are to be attached to positions and offices open to all under conditions of fair equality of opportunity; and (b), they are to be to the greatest benefit of the least advantaged members of society. "
It's a form of distributive justice, easily the most dominant justice paradigm in the United States in the last 30 years.

Affirmative action may not be racism or discrimination in theory but it durned sure is in practice!

I've seen it time and time again where someone who is a member of a minority is given a position instead of a Caucasian (who is inarguably more qualified to do the job in question) to meet some quota. To me - hiring practices should not have anything to do with race ~ it should be ultimately about who is the most qualified candidate among all those who applied. I understand that Affirmative Action was enacted to combat the favoritism shown whites over non-whites in the job market and again ~ in theory it is a great idea. In practice, however, it creates more problems than it solves.

Were I a business owner I would hire whoever I felt to be most qualified to fill the position I needed to fill - regardless of whether their skin was white, brown, black, purple, green, orange, blue, whatever. I just want someone to do their job well, be trustworthy, and prove themselves reliable. Skintone, IMO, plays no part in that process. You can either do the job or you can't.

 

[Expy2K 10+ year member]

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[Wonderbread 5,000+ posts]

Affirmative action may not be racism or discrimination in theory but it durned sure is in practice!
I've seen it time and time again where someone who is a member of a minority is given a position instead of a Caucasian (who is inarguably more qualified to do the job in question) to meet some quota. To me - hiring practices should not have anything to do with race ~ it should be ultimately about who is the most qualified candidate among all those who applied. I understand that Affirmative Action was enacted to combat the favoritism shown whites over non-whites in the job market and again ~ in theory it is a great idea. In practice, however, it creates more problems than it solves.

Were I a business owner I would hire whoever I felt to be most qualified to fill the position I needed to fill - regardless of whether their skin was white, brown, black, purple, green, orange, blue, whatever. I just want someone to do their job well, be trustworthy, and prove themselves reliable. Skintone, IMO, plays no part in that process. You can either do the job or you can't.

The argument that it is not truly "racist" is that they are not being put in a superiour position because of their ethnicity. They are put on equal footing. The primary idea is that a black person and a white person, equally qualified for the same job, will stand the same chance for that particular job. The theory is solid, the practice, perhaps not so much. That, however, is a function of uneducated, unintelligent people being trusted to direct these programs.

 

[Hundreth 10+ year member]

I Agree with everything Wonderbread said so far... EVERYTHING.

Anyone can be "racist." There has been racism way before the Africans became slaves to the white man. Marley is right though for pointing his finger at the American government for using race to benefit certain people. The thing is though that its not as simple as race helping whites. Its more about race helping the wealthy in our country. The KKK was created by wealthy white men, however most of its members are poor white men. Its a way of making the poor fight the poor instead of focusing on the gross inequalities present in our society. This happens all the time, it still happens today. We are brainwashed so that poor whites hate poor blacks, and poor blacks hate the mexicans and whatever other undocumented people are out there. All the different factions of poor people compete over these shitty paying jobs while the wealthy enjoy. Its a way of control.

 

[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

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[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

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[Wonderbread 5,000+ posts]

I Agree with everything Wonderbread said so far... EVERYTHING.
Anyone can be "racist." There has been racism way before the Africans became slaves to the white man. Marley is right though for pointing his finger at the American government for using race to benefit certain people. The thing is though that its not as simple as race helping whites. Its more about race helping the wealthy in our country. The KKK was created by wealthy white men, however most of its members are poor white men. Its a way of making the poor fight the poor instead of focusing on the gross inequalities present in our society. This happens all the time, it still happens today. We are brainwashed so that poor whites hate poor blacks, and poor blacks hate the mexicans and whatever other undocumented people are out there. All the different factions of poor people compete over these shitty paying jobs while the wealthy enjoy. Its a way of control.

Virtually every state, everywhere has condoned or participated in some form of racism. Whether it's policy, a la Apartheid, or more discreet, a la the US government (historically at least), it has existed in nearly every state, particularly those with populations consisted of multiple ethnic, religious, or "racial" groups.

 

[Wonderbread 5,000+ posts]

That made more sense than this whole thread



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Just because you can't keep up doesn't mean you get to ejaculate on the thread. Use Expy for that.

 

[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

Oh dont worry, by the time Im done with this thread there will be so much semen covering it, you'll won't recognize it anymore FTW