Why aren't more of you guys using horns?

[Image Dynamics 10+ year member]

Depending on your amplifier you will not need the active x-over from the head unit.

One simple solution I recommend to many horn noobies is:

Imange Dynamics Q450.4 (75w x 4 @ 4ohm) $579.00 (retail)

CD1EMH (ferrite motor mini body) $329.00 (retail)

CX62v.2 (Chameleon 2 ohm 6.5" mid) $200.00 (retail)

Heres why...

The Q450.4 has good power and a flexible active crossover built-in.

The CD1E driver is 8 ohm and will see approx. 35-40w each (at 8 ohm)

The CX62v.2 is a 2 ohm mid bass driver and will receive approx. 150w each

This will give you a nice power spread between the horns and the mid driver.

Keep in mind that the CD1EMH is 109db efficient so they don't need a ton of power to get really loud.

If you are looking for a GREAT component set you would spend around $500 any way and (personally) I think horns sound better than tweeters. Just my opinion so horn haters back off).

You might want to look into a good eq, as it helps to tweak the horns. Also playing with the phase relative to the mid will help strengthen the sound stage and help shift the stage left or right (depending on your needs).

If you have indepth questions call us at the office (866) 933-1414.

 

[treylittlefield 10+ year member]

Depending on your amplifier you will not need the active x-over from the head unit.
One simple solution I recommend to many horn noobies is:

Imange Dynamics Q450.4 (75w x 4 @ 4ohm) $579.00 (retail)

CD1EMH (ferrite motor mini body) $329.00 (retail)

CX62v.2 (Chameleon 2 ohm 6.5" mid) $200.00 (retail)

Heres why...

The Q450.4 has good power and a flexible active crossover built-in.

The CD1E driver is 8 ohm and will see approx. 35-40w each (at 8 ohm)

The CX62v.2 is a 2 ohm mid bass driver and will receive approx. 150w each

This will give you a nice power spread between the horns and the mid driver.

Keep in mind that the CD1EMH is 109db efficient so they don't need a ton of power to get really loud.

If you are looking for a GREAT component set you would spend around $500 any way and (personally) I think horns sound better than tweeters. Just my opinion so horn haters back off).

You might want to look into a good eq, as it helps to tweak the horns. Also playing with the phase relative to the mid will help strengthen the sound stage and help shift the stage left or right (depending on your needs).

If you have indepth questions call us at the office (866) 933-1414.

would there be another amp i could use?? right now i have a 4 channel hifonics amp. how would i know if i could use it or not?? the amp says HPF FULL and LPF. and say i wanted a list of the mids and horns i could get what would be the best for the money and would keep up wit 4500 watts of subs?? and i wouldnt need any crossovers?? the amp would do the crossing over right?? or wouold i need to buy a processor?? and i have no clue what a good processor would be //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[Image Dynamics 10+ year member]

would there be another amp i could use?? right now i have a 4 channel hifonics amp. how would i know if i could use it or not?? the amp says HPF FULL and LPF. and say i wanted a list of the mids and horns i could get what would be the best for the money and would keep up wit 4500 watts of subs?? and i wouldnt need any crossovers?? the amp would do the crossing over right?? or wouold i need to buy a processor?? and i have no clue what a good processor would be //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

Yes, you can use your HiFonics amp. Use channel 1/2 for the horns and HPF @ 1200 Hz. Use channels 3/4 for the CX62v.2 and HPF them at 80Hz, let them roll off naturally on the top end. You are using the crossover in the amplifier to control the high pass filtering.

As for a list of horns and mids. I personally use our X69 (6x9" mid driver) primarily because I have the same sd as an 8". Many people here don't like 6x9's as they feel 6x9's "beam" too much. If you prefer 6.5" mid bass drivers, for obvious reasons I recommend our CX62v.2 because of the performance but realistically any good 2 ohm 6.5" speaker will do the job.

 

[atsaubrey 10+ year member]

Sean and I use basically the same setup, Horns and the XS69 drivers. I will say his car gets down and dirty stupid loud and mine takes home SQ trophies. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Can't go wrong with this setup IMO

 

[tez4life Premium Member]

Thats what I would love to do in my car, a set of Ultra horns under the dash, and a set of XS69 in the kick panels. Would sound so nice //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Depending on your amplifier you will not need the active x-over from the head unit.
One simple solution I recommend to many horn noobies is:

Imange Dynamics Q450.4 (75w x 4 @ 4ohm) $579.00 (retail)

CD1EMH (ferrite motor mini body) $329.00 (retail)

CX62v.2 (Chameleon 2 ohm 6.5" mid) $200.00 (retail)

Heres why...

The Q450.4 has good power and a flexible active crossover built-in.

The CD1E driver is 8 ohm and will see approx. 35-40w each (at 8 ohm)

The CX62v.2 is a 2 ohm mid bass driver and will receive approx. 150w each

This will give you a nice power spread between the horns and the mid driver.

Keep in mind that the CD1EMH is 109db efficient so they don't need a ton of power to get really loud.

If you are looking for a GREAT component set you would spend around $500 any way and (personally) I think horns sound better than tweeters. Just my opinion so horn haters back off).

You might want to look into a good eq, as it helps to tweak the horns. Also playing with the phase relative to the mid will help strengthen the sound stage and help shift the stage left or right (depending on your needs).

If you have indepth questions call us at the office (866) 933-1414.

Are those horns different than the older cd1e? There are too many places that show older pics that make me wonder if those are still the plastic motored older ones.

 

[Horsemanwill 10+ year member]

yes the cd1ev3 is a completely different beast from the old cd1e horns

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Have you messed with them? I had the older cd1e, older cd2 and cd3 ultras. where would you put those at performance wise?

 

[treylittlefield 10+ year member]

Yes, you can use your HiFonics amp. Use channel 1/2 for the horns and HPF @ 1200 Hz. Use channels 3/4 for the CX62v.2 and HPF them at 80Hz, let them roll off naturally on the top end. You are using the crossover in the amplifier to control the high pass filtering.
As for a list of horns and mids. I personally use our X69 (6x9" mid driver) primarily because I have the same sd as an 8". Many people here don't like 6x9's as they feel 6x9's "beam" too much. If you prefer 6.5" mid bass drivers, for obvious reasons I recommend our CX62v.2 because of the performance but realistically any good 2 ohm 6.5" speaker will do the job.

i dont htink my amps HPF goes up that high... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif yeah i would stick to whatever would fit in my door..so what horns should i get?? and would i order these seperatly or do they come in a package like i've seen some of em?? and i'm sure i would need the mini bodies but havent seen them in the package deals..i guess i could just order everyhting seperatly...lol

 

[ninjawhiteboy12 10+ year member]

knowing your budget would help people recommend drivers for you

 

[Horsemanwill 10+ year member]

you get the horn motors and the bodies as a set.

 

[ninjawhiteboy12 10+ year member]

or if you would like to get a different 1in driver with a 2 or 3 hole bolt patern you could just buy the horn bodies from ID direct for $180.

whatever you want to do

 

[treylittlefield 10+ year member]

well i wanna get somethin thats plenty loud. i mean if i need to get the best ones then so be it. but if somethin in the middle does as good then yeah i'd get them. i know i'll prob need the mini bodies so somehtin that would fit them. i'm a noob when it comes to horns so i have no idea. lol

 

[bass_lover1 10+ year member]

well i wanna get somethin thats plenty loud. i mean if i need to get the best ones then so be it. but if somethin in the middle does as good then yeah i'd get them. i know i'll prob need the mini bodies so somehtin that would fit them. i'm a noob when it comes to horns so i have no idea. lol

Have you checked the efficiency ratings on the compression drivers? They're all well over 100dB @ 1W/M. A measly 20 watts will make any of them scream.

I'm not trying to dispel you from using horns but I think you're gonna get in over your head pretty quickly with these. Horns take a lot of trial and error to get them sounding right. They don't require a lot of processing, but IMO I wouldn't even attempt horns without a nice 1/3 oct. dual band EQ.

 

[ninjawhiteboy12 10+ year member]

yes they will get loud dont worry about that, one thing i have been wondering though is does the exit throught of the driver effect the performance? say two drivers have the same specs will the 2in ext and the 1.5 in exit perfom differently given that they are hooked up to the same horn with a different throat size