Who thinks Obama's birth certificate is real?

[Proximity 10+ year member]

And getting into debt had nothing to do with Bush. It doesn't matter who's president, we are going into debt because of the people that live in it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

It had a lot to do with Bush. He lowered taxes, got us into two wars and passed the unpaid-for prescription drug act.

Also, the deficit would be fractions what is it now if it wasn't for the recession. Revenue dropped drastically (exacerbated by Bush's tax cuts) and spending went up to offset the loss of consumer spending from unemployment in the form of Obama's stimulus.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

It had a lot to do with Bush. He lowered taxes, got us into two wars and passed the unpaid-for prescription drug act.
Also, the deficit would be fractions what is it now if it wasn't for the recession. Revenue dropped drastically (exacerbated by Bush's tax cuts) and spending went up to offset the loss of consumer spending from unemployment in the form of Obama's stimulus.

Ir still don't think it would've mattered. He didn't "get" us into wars, other (foreign) peoples' actions did. If America is attacked by a terrorists group like 9/11 and the president didn't declare war, what would the president be considered? If you were president would you have declared war?

Once again, it's not specifically any president's fault, it's more of the peoples' fault. He wasn't the only one with the ideas in the bills/laws passed //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[outsideshot23 10+ year member]

Ir still don't think it would've mattered. He didn't "get" us into wars, other (foreign) peoples' actions did. If America is attacked by a terrorists group like 9/11 and the president didn't declare war, what would the president be considered? If you were president would you have declared war?
Once again, it's not specifically any president's fault, it's more of the peoples' fault. He wasn't the only one with the ideas in the bills/laws passed //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

exactly what i was thinking.. please reiterate how declaring war after 9/11 was getting us into a war.. you suggest we be a doormat and do nothing about it? Im curious as to how you think it should have happened

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I'm also not saying that all decisions made were the best, but it seems as if the decisions just keep getting worse.

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and Bush knew it. Iraq had no WMDs, and Bush knew it. Bush lied to us, about everything. Maybe even 9/11 itself.

The war in Afghanistan was also been completely worthless.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and Bush knew it. Iraq had no WMDs, and Bush knew it. Bush lied to us, about everything. Maybe even 9/11 itself.
The war in Afghanistan was also been completely worthless.

I don't disagree with you, but Bush isn't the only person to be blamed for the war in Iraq (he's not the only one who decided to go to war in the government). You know how many Americans wanted to go to war as well? They might as well be blamed as much as Bush.

 

[thevic24 5,000+ posts]

I dont really care(I do but I dont..) as the government can and will do just about whatever it wants,

This "electronic" copy of a 1961 birth certificate has a few red flags for me.

1. Some of it appears to have been typed on an old style manual typewriter. There are some letters that do not line up in some lines

and in others, they line up perfectly. Well with these older typewriters, if some letters were not lined up, then they were always not lined up.

2. (this is a big red flag to me) In 1961, and Hawaii for that matter, "African" was NOT used for race.

The term "negro" was used for the race of a black child, mother and or father.

Obama's certificate has his father listed as "African" for the race. Again , in 1961, Hawaii and the US did not use that term for a black person's race.

I would like to see the ORIGINAL document but it seems to be under lock and key. Its funny how anybody els's BC can be seen at any time including other president's but this one is (the original) is like some kind of Area 51 secrete.

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

2. (this is a big red flag to me) In 1961, and Hawaii for that matter, "African" was NOT used for race.The term "negro" was used for the race of a black child, mother and or father.

Obama's certificate has his father listed as "African" for the race. Again , in 1961, Hawaii and the US did not use that term for a black person's race.

So you know more than the people who are covering this up for Obama who can expertly forge two entire birth certificates?

Stop being such a retard. The birth certificates are real. Jesus how fucking stupid can people be...

 

[thevic24 5,000+ posts]

So you know more than the people who are covering this up for Obama who can expertly forge two entire birth certificates?
Stop being such a retard. The birth certificates are real. Jesus how fucking stupid can people be...

Hmmm

A lot of people KNOW this. Go check out some birth records from back then and see if any of them used "African" as a race for a black person.

 

[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

So you know more than the people who are covering this up for Obama who can expertly forge two entire birth certificates?
Stop being such a retard. The birth certificates are real. Jesus how fucking stupid can people be...

Evidently, yes he does.

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

Evidently, yes he does.

Touche`

 

[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

Touche`

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[jco1385 5,000+ posts]

This is how you Politic. /Thread go back to audio now.

this is a great movie

 

[ZRiCK]

I do

 

[ChevyRidinLow]

I do

your first post on this site is saying that you think obamas birth cert is real.....youre fucked