Who thinks Obama's birth certificate is real?

[VWBobby 10+ year member]

Thank you for coming to my defense guys! I don't have a lot of time to be posting on here, so I appreciate it.

I'm glad some people can have a civilized talk without nit picking each other, and actually understanding the major points. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Whoops, looks like I was "wrong" again, Venezuela pays 12 Cents a gallon, not 20!

CNN/Money: Global gas prices

"Many European nations tax gasoline heavily, with taxes making up as much as 75 percent of the cost of a gallon of gasoline, said a spokesperson for AirInc.

In a few Latin America and Middle-East nations, such as Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, oil is produced by a government-owned company and local gasoline prices are kept low as a benefit to the nation's citizens, he said."

Looks like the US is planning on tapping into their resources too. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

Low gas prices plague Venezuela - MarketWatch

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

According to your article, gas is so cheap in Venezuela because government pays for 90% of it. Isn't that socialism which is evil and will kill anything it touches?!?!?! you're saying you want Obama to be even more of a socialist?!?

 

[VWBobby 10+ year member]

The gas is cheap because its not taxed at 70-90% like ours is. The oil companies in the US might be a corporation, but they definitely are government controlled, or even government owned for that matter. With the amount of government agencies, defense contractors, etc. buying "oil futures", I would say that qualifies them as owning a piece of the company. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Another sign of fraudulent gas prices? Rewards cards. How can Shell knock 10 cents a gallon off, just by tracking the customer using their Fred Meyer/Kroger rewards/phone number? They aren't even the same company or share stock. They are using it for marketing and writing it off on taxes. You also have the private sector, contractors and smaller corporations buying oil futures, and discount membership pricing (Pacific Pride, for example).

Where I live, gas is $4.15 for regular, while 35 miles down the road, gas is $3.89. The price is fixed in my city, while the city with 1500 more people pays at least 20 cents less per gallon, year round. They are even imposing a 3 cent per gallon "city tax" June 15th!

 

[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

According to your article, gas is so cheap in Venezuela because government pays for 90% of it. Isn't that socialism which is evil and will kill anything it touches?!?!?! you're saying you want Obama to be even more of a socialist?!?

Oh look, you actually decided to read the article despite the fact that he knows Obammy's bc is fake.

 

[chunky cumz 10+ year member]

i saw the certificate. Its wrote in crayon

definitely was legit

 

[Mookie 10+ year member]

Our government.. smh.

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

The gas is cheap because its not taxed at 70-90% like ours is. The oil companies in the US might be a corporation, but they definitely are government controlled, or even government owned for that matter. With the amount of government agencies, defense contractors, etc. buying "oil futures", I would say that qualifies them as owning a piece of the company. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
Another sign of fraudulent gas prices? Rewards cards. How can Shell knock 10 cents a gallon off, just by tracking the customer using their Fred Meyer/Kroger rewards/phone number? They aren't even the same company or share stock. They are using it for marketing and writing it off on taxes. You also have the private sector, contractors and smaller corporations buying oil futures, and discount membership pricing (Pacific Pride, for example).

Where I live, gas is $4.15 for regular, while 35 miles down the road, gas is $3.89. The price is fixed in my city, while the city with 1500 more people pays at least 20 cents less per gallon, year round. They are even imposing a 3 cent per gallon "city tax" June 15th!

Lol, 70-90%. where the hell do you get your numbers? The heritage foundation? The average tax for gas is 48 cents per gallon. That makes it vary around 9%. And that's both state and federal taxes. Try arming yourself with facts instead of just relentless bullshit.

 

And yes, gas prices are fucked up. It has nothing to do with the government, or at least it's no fault of the government's. Certainly not Obama's for fuck sake. The problem is capitalism without regulation. IMO the US should look into socializing the gas industry. But socialism, no matter how much it actually helps, is bad, mkay.

 

[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

Lol, 80-90%. where the hell do you get your numbers? The heritage foundation? The average tax for gas is 48 cents per gallon. That makes it vary around 9%. And that's both state and federal taxes. Try arming yourself with facts instead of just relentless bullshit. 

And yes, gas prices are fucked up. It has nothing to do with the government, or at least it's no fault of the government's. Certainly not Obama's for fuck sake. The problem is capitalism without regulation. IMO the US should look into socializing the gas industry. But socialism, no matter how much it actually helps, is bad, mkay.

Show me the birth certificate!

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

No swear filter?

 

[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

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[Proximity 10+ year member]

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Oh.

 

[Suicide Bobb 5,000+ posts]

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Oh.

You can't explain that.

 

[VWBobby 10+ year member]

Lol, 70-90%. where the hell do you get your numbers? The heritage foundation? The average tax for gas is 48 cents per gallon. That makes it vary around 9%. And that's both state and federal taxes. Try arming yourself with facts instead of just relentless bullshit. 

And yes, gas prices are fucked up. It has nothing to do with the government, or at least it's no fault of the government's. Certainly not Obama's for fuck sake. The problem is capitalism without regulation. IMO the US should look into socializing the gas industry. But socialism, no matter how much it actually helps, is bad, mkay.

Wow, I can't believe you packed that many errors into a couple of paragraphs. We pay nearly 48 cents per gallon in tax where I live. If you had read my previous post, you would see the city is even imposing a 3 cent tax in a couple weeks. Some states pay at little at $3.45 er gallon while, I pay $4.15. My car uses premium, so I'm actually paying ~$4.30 depending on the time of the week (literally).

USA National Gas Price Heat Map - GasBuddy.com (hint, west coast)

If OPEC is the organization "dedicated to stability in and shared control of the petroleum markets" (which we are a part of) I would definitely say the government is responsible. We are a major buyer of foreign oil. Oil is traded in US dollars, ACROSS THE GLOBE, for a reason. If we are a major producer of our own oil, which we store in the "national reserve", why should we be paying more than $2.00 a gallon like we were before 2001? Hmm, is the "war" possibly jacking up the price of gas? Maybe, it is similar to 1974 when everyone had a fake gas shortage and had to wait in line depending on license plate number? Looks like history repeating itself to me. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

If you don't start educating yourself about how foreign policies, taxes and corporations work, I will come right along and continue to point out all the faults in your posts. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Proximity 10+ year member]

I will come right along and continue to point out all the faults in your posts. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

You have yet to. You contradicted nothing I said. All you did was ramble about high gas prices. Newsflash, the government doesn't set gas prices. Oil companies do. The US government doesn't drill for oil, oil companies do. The same companies that drill for oil here (ie in the gulf) drill for oil everywhere in the world. All oil drilled in the world goes into the same pool.

I think the only way for the US government to affect gas prices is to socialize drilling for oil, take control of the oil themselves, refine it and sell it in government owned gas stations. Operate independent of oil prices and hopefully some competition will drop other prices. But I don't know enough about it to know if that outcome is even possible.

 

[VWBobby 10+ year member]

I contradicted everything you said. The oil companies might be the ones drilling, but who funds them? Who gives them the tax breaks and allows them to run the way they do? Why is BP operating in the US? Its British Petroleum for a reason..... Shell, Chevron, Arco, etc are all conglomerates of many investors, both private and government based. There's a reason oil companies are reporting record profits DURING A RECESSION, when people are driving less than they did a few years ago.

If you have all the answers, try to find a leg to stand on and dispute what I said.

"oil drilled in the world goes into the same pool". No it doesn't. The US has a National Reserve for a reason. We are supposed to have 1 Million barrels of oil in stock, at all times. This is to ensure the market fluctuations do not affect American consumers.