Who Competes?

[stereo_luver 10+ year member]

I'm just wondering who here competes? I mean do you build just to have what YOU think is a nice system? Or are you building to compete? From what I'm seeing there are fewer people going to events and competing. The support for car audio is lacking to say the least. How many here actually go and attend events? If you don't compete what is holding you back?

Chuck

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[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Meca s2

 

[wenn_du_weinst 10+ year member]

I used to, I held the local record for a long time and just got beat last year when I didn't attend. I switched to sq now though so doubt I'll compete again.

 

[i2ain2thunder 10+ year member]

I don't compete mainly because I'm building to have a great system not just to score high. But in SQ which is my build I guess they are one and the same thing somewhat. If I ever get my midbass drivers installed and my HO alt installed I'd consider going to a comp and competing in the sq category. I could compete SPL but I don't feel like damaging my subs.

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

db drag street c and bass race 139.9. Competitor Stats: Team Audio Connection - Jim

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

I compete when I can (s5, s1, and sq modified this year) and also judge here in ohio.

What I've found is most are either a) scared to find out their score or b)scared to get beaten in competition. People on the forums talk a good game, but enjoy the ignorance of not having someone against them in a given division. Then there's learning and mastering the rules. I get people that say "I don't understand the fuse rules" and don't even try meca for that reason.

 

[sacsking916 5,000+ posts]

bassrace 139.9 for me. i hit up as many as i can, time off allowed

 

[stereo_luver 10+ year member]

I compete when I can (s5, s1, and sq modified this year) and also judge here in ohio.
What I've found is most are either a) scared to find out their score or b)scared to get beaten in competition. People on the forums talk a good game, but enjoy the ignorance of not having someone against them in a given division. Then there's learning and mastering the rules. I get people that say "I don't understand the fuse rules" and don't even try meca for that reason.

I was afraid of this. Most people THINK they have a good - great system and don't want to be judged for the fear of being told what is lacking in the system/sound. The judges are there for a reason. They give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. It HELPS you have a better system. You can ride around all day with what you think is a killer system. But have a trained ear have a listen and oops! You may be pulling a little to the left. Your midbass may be lacking around 125kHz. The stage may not be as wide as you thought. Where exactly is your center? Is your sub pulling you back to the trunk? Most of all are you afraid to be told what is wrong with what you are hearing?

Chuck

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

I was afraid of this. Most people THINK they have a good - great system and don't want to be judged for the fear of being told what is lacking in the system/sound. The judges are there for a reason. They give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. It HELPS you have a better system. You can ride around all day with what you think is a killer system. But have a trained ear have a listen and oops! You may be pulling a little to the left. Your midbass may be lacking around 125kHz. The stage may not be as wide as you thought. Where exactly is your center? Is your sub pulling you back to the trunk? Most of all are you afraid to be told what is wrong with what you are hearing?
Chuck

Oh yeah, and the people that consider themselves sound quality are the hardest to bring out. Their automatic excuse is "well its subjective it sounds good in my opinion" but the judging standards are clear enough for fair, consistent judging.

But keep hope aive my man! I believe the competition scene can gro and be like the old days again if we judges and event directors put the time and effort into promoting and getting sponsors

 

[i2ain2thunder 10+ year member]

I just am not familiar with it and a little nervous about that. Never even been to one, do they tell you what category you should compete in and stuff, what music is acceptable do they play their own stuff like that I guess I just don't know a thing about them. That and I'm in MN not many comps here from what I understand. I don't know where to find info on when and where comps are stuff like that.

I just want to enter my ride, show up let them play whatever they want test it and give me the results, then check out other people's systems and demo my own maybe get lit/drunk and party a lil bit. It sounds like the prep work and music choice and stuff is a lot of work though

 

[ChevyRidinLow]

i dont compete because there are no comps near me and i dont wanna spend 5000 on a stereo to put in a 2000 dollar car just for the sake of blasting out a 32 hz tone for 10 seconds

 

[sacsking916 5,000+ posts]

I was afraid of this. Most people THINK they have a good - great system and don't want to be judged for the fear of being told what is lacking in the system/sound. The judges are there for a reason. They give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. It HELPS you have a better system. You can ride around all day with what you think is a killer system. But have a trained ear have a listen and oops! You may be pulling a little to the left. Your midbass may be lacking around 125kHz. The stage may not be as wide as you thought. Where exactly is your center? Is your sub pulling you back to the trunk? Most of all are you afraid to be told what is wrong with what you are hearing?
Chuck

Oh yeah, and the people that consider themselves sound quality are the hardest to bring out. Their automatic excuse is "well its subjective it sounds good in my opinion" but the judging standards are clear enough for fair, consistent judging.
But keep hope aive my man! I believe the competition scene can gro and be like the old days again if we judges and event directors put the time and effort into promoting and getting sponsors

seems to me you guys are talking more SQ/SQL than you are SPL burps. most guys i know dont want to go to a comp with there daily drivers when they get put up against a guy who has perfected his burp system. makes it much less fun for first time guys.

 

[stereo_luver 10+ year member]

I compete with my daily driver / work truck. I go up against $$$$$$$$$$ and I have a fraction of the cost in my ride and I do my own build and tuning. Yep I'm SQ/SQL but that shouldn't be any different from SPL since there are classes with rules.

Chuck

 

[sacsking916 5,000+ posts]

I compete with my daily driver / work truck. I go up against $$$$$$$$$$ and I have a fraction of the cost in my ride and I do my own build and tuning. Yep I'm SQ/SQL but that shouldn't be any different from SPL since there are classes with rules.
Chuck

true, i meant as far as how the "sound of the system" was ya know. i compete in my dailr driver also, do my own build, do my own box, and spent my own money for everything in my car. so i know what ya mean

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Do I count in this conversation? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[Kangaroux 5,000+ posts]

Do I count in this conversation? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Who are you again?

 

[dirtysouth31 10+ year member]

m4 in va beach,single 18 @ 145.7 at 39htz @ headrest

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

Oh yeah, and the people that consider themselves sound quality are the hardest to bring out. Their automatic excuse is "well its subjective it sounds good in my opinion" but the judging standards are clear enough for fair, consistent judging.
But keep hope aive my man! I believe the competition scene can gro and be like the old days again if we judges and event directors put the time and effort into promoting and getting sponsors

There lies the problem. Promoting costs money no matter how you look at it. I have been doing this for many years and this is and always will be an issue. Most shows put on by a store/manufacturer raise next to no money for them self. They gain awareness which will net some funding, but not much. So then you look into sponsors or selling vendor spaces to help cover costs. However, unless you have a solid show with a good turn out you are less likely to do well with a sponsor or vendors. It is a very tough road to travel down when you are doing these events.

I have helped some of the most successful events ever and some of the worst. In all honesty it will boil down to participation and if you have a backer to keep up the show for a few years to get some type of recognition to gain sponsors and vendors.

With all that in mind there are tricks to getting events going and getting a large crowd. You just have to know the right people or at the very least be able to pick up a phone and make some calls with the right offers.

 

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Who are you again?

No one it would seem //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif

 

[sacsking916 5,000+ posts]

Do I count in this conversation? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

no you dont count sir. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/hide.gif.2d479cfd917eedfe201353b91522ceab.gif

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

There lies the problem. Promoting costs money no matter how you look at it. I have been doing this for many years and this is and always will be an issue. Most shows put on by a store/manufacturer raise next to no money for them self. They gain awareness which will net some funding, but not much. So then you look into sponsors or selling vendor spaces to help cover costs. However, unless you have a solid show with a good turn out you are less likely to do well with a sponsor or vendors. It is a very tough road to travel down when you are doing these events.
I have helped some of the most successful events ever and some of the worst. In all honesty it will boil down to participation and if you have a backer to keep up the show for a few years to get some type of recognition to gain sponsors and vendors.

With all that in mind there are tricks to getting events going and getting a large crowd. You just have to know the right people or at the very least be able to pick up a phone and make some calls with the right offers.

 

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No one it would seem //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif

Word up, meca's most recognizeable event is getting dropped tis year due to it losing money wtf