What would you do? In a fight...

ok i understand that she may need to pay for it too, but we all know what kind of attachments come along w/ loving someone, regardless of the past u still have attachments, ESPECIALLY when a child is involved! his whole thing is lying about it happening to an innocent person, and first off its not like they are going to trial over this shit, and he wont be lying to anyone but his local police dept at most, and he already said he will be talking to child services...now unless she put the baby in direct danger or the baby was harmed in any way, than i dont think she should suffer getting her child taken away..she put her self in a situation where SHE could have been hurt, not anywhere have i read that the baby was mistreated, or harmed at all! how can you justify sitting on the internet, and saying she deserves to lose her child? you know nothing about her!! im sure she takes very good care of her child, she just has emotional attachment to her baby's dad which is expected when you have a child with someone!!! you guys are basing this off of a 1 paragraph statement!! you have no right wut so ever!!
I'm sorry, maybe you missed the part where she invited over a violent criminal (abuser) to the house where her child was, then proceeded to allow an altercation to get out of hand, leading to another assault (her roommate) who had to defend both her and the child... if the child was in this situation, then he/she was in danger, all caused by the willful, reckless behavior of the mother. Love aside, she knows the man is dangerous and invited him over anyway. The concerns we have were proven to be true... when he assaulted someone else.

You gonna wait till he attacks or kills the child to try to coerce the mother?

I'm not. He is a scumbag, she apparently didn't learn her lesson the first time her child was taken away... this time, she should lose all parental rights, baby should be put up for adoption into a loving, stable, SAFE home. Mom obviously is incapable, or unwilling to provide that, and she's risking the lives of herself, her baby, and their roommate to satisfy whatever ****ed-up urge she has to make contact with baby-daddy.

No sympathy.

This is the kind of situation that leads to dead mothers and dead babies... you ever seen that firsthand? I have. It's not something you ever take lightly again.

 
Tell the truth. You jumped into protect her, and this is the way she repays you? She's an idiot and maybe doesn't deserve her kid for the time being. I mean she invited the ex over, right?

That in itself is an idiotic thing to do, given his propensity towards domestic violence.

 
I'm sorry, maybe you missed the part where she invited over a violent criminal (abuser) to the house where her child was, then proceeded to allow an altercation to get out of hand, leading to another assault (her roommate) who had to defend both her and the child... if the child was in this situation, then he/she was in danger, all caused by the willful, reckless behavior of the mother. Love aside, she knows the man is dangerous and invited him over anyway. The concerns we have were proven to be true... when he assaulted someone else.
You gonna wait till he attacks or kills the child to try to coerce the mother?

I'm not. He is a scumbag, she apparently didn't learn her lesson the first time her child was taken away... this time, she should lose all parental rights, baby should be put up for adoption into a loving, stable, SAFE home. Mom obviously is incapable, or unwilling to provide that, and she's risking the lives of herself, her baby, and their roommate to satisfy whatever ****ed-up urge she has to make contact with baby-daddy.

No sympathy.

This is the kind of situation that leads to dead mothers and dead babies... you ever seen that firsthand? I have. It's not something you ever take lightly again.
i dont have any sympathy for the girl, i have sympathy for the child and the shit she will go through in life not being raised by her paternal mother! do you know what its like for a child to go through life with out their mom or dad? i sure do, first hand!! especially since he has said shes old enough to recognize him and call him dad, so that means the child **** sure knows who her mother is!! now granted she made a bad choice, but why put the child through the system when its not necessary? i mean i just feel you guys are over reacting a tad bit, and i dont think we are getting the whole story here to begin with...some things just dont add up, but i wont sit here and call the OP a liar he may very well be telling the truth, but some things seem to be left out! but all in all i could give 2 shits wut happens to either one of them, they both already lied to the police, by him not giving a statement, and her lying directly...he shouldnt have stepped in at all in the first place, regardless, she brought this on her self, not him...he chose to step up and get involved...he should have minded his own business from the jump and he wouldnt be in this siutation...coming on here and asking for help is not gettin him anywhere...he should have his own morals and beliefs, he shouldnt need people over the interenet to tell him what to do in his life...

 
i dont have any sympathy for the girl, i have sympathy for the child and the shit she will go through in life not being raised by her paternal mother! do you know what its like for a child to go through life with out their mom or dad? i sure do, first hand!! especially since he has said shes old enough to recognize him and call him dad, so that means the child **** sure knows who her mother is!! now granted she made a bad choice, but why put the child through the system when its not necessary? i mean i just feel you guys are over reacting a tad bit, and i dont think we are getting the whole story here to begin with...some things just dont add up, but i wont sit here and call the OP a liar he may very well be telling the truth, but some things seem to be left out! but all in all i could give 2 shits wut happens to either one of them, they both already lied to the police, by him not giving a statement, and her lying directly...he shouldnt have stepped in at all in the first place, regardless, she brought this on her self, not him...he chose to step up and get involved...he should have minded his own business from the jump and he wouldnt be in this siutation...coming on here and asking for help is not gettin him anywhere...he should have his own morals and beliefs, he shouldnt need people over the interenet to tell him what to do in his life...
How is being raised by the mother who has no problems endangering the child, helping? Thats just F'ed up thought right there.

 
i dont have any sympathy for the girl, i have sympathy for the child and the shit she will go through in life not being raised by her paternal mother!
I actually agree, which is why I see this as a difficult decision. The baby has an attatchment to both the mother and I. I have been roomates with the mother for only 4 months and she just got full custody again of her kid 3 days after becoming my roomate. The attatchment is strong.

do you know what its like for a child to go through life with out their mom or dad? i sure do, first hand!! especially since he has said shes old enough to recognize him and call him dad, so that means the child **** sure knows who her mother is!! now granted she made a bad choice, but why put the child through the system when its not necessary?
strong point I have considered... but it may be neccesary. Like I said, she has been my roomate for 4 months in 2 different places (one apartment, and now a house we rent). This was our 1st day in the house we rent, she could have cut all ties off from her ex as he would never have known she moved or where to but she invited him up that night. I expect many visits from the father in the future, which could be bad and is considered bad by police and child services.

i mean i just feel you guys are over reacting a tad bit, and i dont think we are getting the whole story here to begin with...some things just dont add up, but i wont sit here and call the OP a liar he may very well be telling the truth, but some things seem to be left out!
anyone can lie, it's the internet right? but if you feel there's anything left out or doesn't add up, let me know. I could give a much larger description of the night, I tried to sum it up short.

but all in all i could give 2 shits wut happens to either one of them, they both already lied to the police, by him not giving a statement, and her lying directly...
Not true. When police showed up, the first thing they asked is if either of us wanted to contact our lawyers before giving a statement. I was recently involved in an assault case (against me, which I was later found Not Guilty) and he advised me not to give a statement without him being present. Police and opposing lawyers can pick apart and manipulate any slip up in language or small thing you said and turn it on you.... at least that's what my lawyer said...

he shouldnt have stepped in at all in the first place, regardless, she brought this on her self, not him...he chose to step up and get involved...he should have minded his own business from the jump and he wouldnt be in this siutation...
Should I add that the two got loud and violent in my kitchen, while I had food in there and the second I saw his hands grabbing her arms, all I said was "you gotta back off"... To also add to this, the man assaulted her before, and there was a kid sleeping on the floor above us. Something violent happens and I decide to ignore it, how do we know the father doesn't involve the kid at all, or beats the woman and takes the kid. Their initial argument was over him saying he doesn't get any alone time with the kid.

coming on here and asking for help is not gettin him anywhere...he should have his own morals and beliefs, he shouldnt need people over the interenet to tell him what to do in his life...
If I were told by police to give a statement, I would 100% tell the truth. I have never dealt with children's services in my life. I have only a slight idea of the power they have and what power they could used based on my statements. I would love for the woman to keep her kid and be forced to move into a place the father can't be involved and for myself not to get a criminal record... If anyone has ideas to make this happen, let me know.

 
i dont have any sympathy for the girl, i have sympathy for the child and the shit she will go through in life not being raised by her paternal mother!
SCREEEEEEEEEECH! STOP right there.... what the FCUK is a paternal mother??? HAHAHAHA

do you know what its like for a child to go through life with out their mom or dad? i sure do, first hand!!
Ummm... yup. And it was a helluva lot better than being raised by someone who abuses me or my mother.

but why put the child through the system when its not necessary?
To protect the child's life... it's not an easy decision, but it's one that had to be made, IMNSHO.

he should have his own morals and beliefs, he shouldnt need people over the interenet to tell him what to do in his life...
Yeah, we should just do away with the whole OT section, anyways.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Dude, what does a mother have to do (in your opinion) to warrant having her child taken away? 'Cause I'm sure Britney Spears needs someone in her corner right about now.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif

 
I'd lie...then walk.

Although I have no respect for the mother, I know my friend's kids (who are in states custody atm) would rather go without food and take a fist to the eye vs. living with foster parents.

He doesn't fight the kid, just the mother. Who hits him as well.

 
You owe it not only to yourself, but also TO THAT CHILD, to tell the truth. It needs to be known by child services that she is willing to endanger her child still. You didn't **** up. SHE DID. Child services can only help if they have the facts. Dishonesty only hinders their ability.
This ^^^ and screen your roomates better.

 
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