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[CrossFired 10+ year member]

Clarions got a better and more functional HU than the 880 in the $300 range. Not only that, it doesn't have the micro fuse issue. DXZ775USB.

There's no micro fuse issue unless your an idiot and swap hot rca's.

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[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

Dream on! In my 25 years of selling/installing HU, Clarion has never been hiEnd! Allways mid fi and allways will be.
You can see it in this HU, MSRP is like $1400. and it has the features of a $300. HU.

Now Pioneer makes great sounding HiEnd HU's for a very fair price. The 880 cost less than $500. and is a super hiend SQ HU. If the Clarion does sound better(not likely)at $1400.? thats not saying much. Lets see Clarion make a better HU for $500. Than I'll buy one.

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Pioneer is Hi end? LMAO Aside from the ODR you really need to show me proof.

Since when is the 880 nearly as flexible as the DRZ? Oh yes, never happened. Even quite difficult for the P9 combo to rival a DRZ and wait ... it costs MORE money.

DRZ > 880 All day long and I'd surely be interested in showing me proof otherwise.

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

Your sig:

HU= Pioneer 880, Ipod Classic 160.

Front= Boston Pro 6.5.

Rear= Boston RM6 Coax.

Sub= Kicker CVT122.

Amps=Crossfire VR404, VR401.

Total cost $1400. off Ebay.

Your quote:

Dream on! In my 25 years of selling/installing HU,

Oddly I do see some irony here.

BTW, your sense of 'hi end' seems to have failed on the product selection for your vehicle.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Dream on! In my 25 years of selling/installing HU, Clarion has never been hiEnd! Allways mid fi and allways will be.
You can see it in this HU, MSRP is like $1400. and it has the features of a $300. HU.

Now Pioneer makes great sounding HiEnd HU's for a very fair price. The 880 cost less than $500. and is a super hiend SQ HU. If the Clarion does sound better(not likely)at $1400.? thats not saying much. Lets see Clarion make a better HU for $500. Than I'll buy one.

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http://www.elitecaraudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=109236

 

[michaelsil1 10+ year member]

I feel the need to say something here since I own both of these units.

Premier DEH-P880PRS vs. Clarion DRZ9255:

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[aeon 10+ year member]

care to give us a little comparison review of the two head units?

 

[michaelsil1 10+ year member]

I don't really feel qualified to give an accurate review of either unit. Werewolf has far more knowledge than I do and I think he did a hell of job with an in depth review of the Clarion DRZ9255.

http://www.elitecaraudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=109236

The Premier DEH-P880PRS for me just didn't have the sound quality that I was looking for. After many hours of tuning I had my system sounding good, but I wanted something that sounded better.

I like the sound quality of the Clarion DRZ9255.

 

[CrossFired 10+ year member]

Your sig:
HU= Pioneer 880, Ipod Classic 160.

Front= Boston Pro 6.5.

Rear= Boston RM6 Coax.

Sub= Kicker CVT122.

Amps=Crossfire VR404, VR401.

Total cost $1400. off Ebay.

Your quote:

Oddly I do see some irony here.

BTW, your sense of 'hi end' seems to have failed on the product selection for your vehicle.

That system in my Runner cant be beat for money spent. Dont get me wrong! I've got plenty of money and can have most any system I want. I feel in a car environment anything more is a waste of money. I've dampend every panel and all that hear my ride say the same thing, WOW! your sh*t sounds great!

Its all about the install. Plenty of folks have spent more on gear and have less to show for it.

One of the thing I dont like about the Clarion is the limited bands of EQ. I know for a fact that in a car environment you need a lot of bands of EQ to get a flat response.

The Clarion is lacking in a big way, IMO.

Pioneer is the pioneer when it comes to car audio. They pioneered most every feature in todays HU's. And they did while giving good value to there Customers.

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[Babs 10+ year member]

It's evident the internal components of the DRZ is yes on a different level than most other head units and certainly your typical $300 all-in-one head units... These are the same reasons the Nak CD700II with absolutely NO processing is also $1400 IF IF IF you can find one.

Given the internal component upgrades over standard head units, the copper chassis, the external power supply, the fat fat DAC's and op-amps, the sure enough discrete volume attenuator, the straight signal out by itself regardless of processing should be expected to be significantly better... It will put the weakest link in your sound chain in the rest of your components and the level of detail in your amp and especially wiring and speaker installations.

So, I've heard great head units with fair speakers and little effort given to the install... sounded eh.. so so... and I've heard medium level head units with great attention to detail in speaker installs and chosen components... Night and day difference even with lesser head units.. So with any THIS vs THAT head unit competition, don't forget the rest of the build.

Still.. The DRZ spanks. And I am a pioneer fan also and I do think the 880 is a fine head unit, provided yes you do not hot-swap rca's.

I am surprised to see the lowly underdog dxz775usb get some positive mention though.. Seems like an ok head unit but gets very very little press.

Oh.. Meant to post... Here's about as much as you'd ever want to read about the DRZ9255:

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2586

 

[michaelsil1 10+ year member]

http://www.elitecaraudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=109236

Thank you for the link, very good reading.

 

[michaelsil1 10+ year member]

Its all about the install. Plenty of folks have spent more on gear and have less to show for it.

Very good point if you don't invest in keeping the noise out and the sound in you will probably not be satisfied with anything you install.

 

[Babs 10+ year member]

Absolutely.. I imagine even with the DRZ, running a good quality power and ground line is crucial as well.. Coming from a home theater and home hifi mindset, seeing the expense some guys spend on just power cables even to run to expensive home preamps or preamp/processors and amps, I'm amazed that the little power line in the typical car harness powering typical head units is never really criticized. I guess there's a reason for that if indeed it's not necessary to go beyond the standard provided wiring, but I'd bet I'd want to run something more substantial direct from battery to a DRZ DC/DC power supply, and solid ground line, similar to a small amp install, just to be sure. After all, it is infact an audiophile quality preamp/processor.

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[CrossFired 10+ year member]

Ya, I'm sure the Clarion is a cleaner sounding HU with little to no noise floor, but I need the control to EQ the sound that the 880 gives me(and the Clarion wont).

My home system ran around $11,000. and has no EQ, bass or tone controls.

In a car audio environment with road noise along with other noise's, S/N is not really an issue for me but lots of EQ to shape the sound to my car is very needed(imo).

For years the only way to get a flat responce was by use of a Audio Control extrernal EQ

or other brand external EQ, this is no longer the case if you use an 880.

The Clarion maybe cleaner with less noise but the Pioneer can fully conform to a car audio environment.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/furious.gif.fc81ca146dbff91fede3ed290dbc4f4c.gif

 

[Babs 10+ year member]

I agree with that too, and I'm happy to see the processing that any of these have nowadays.. I think personally, digital time alignment is one of the best things that's happened to car audio, along with more than just bass/treble minimal EQ.

 

[michaelsil1 10+ year member]

Absolutely.. I imagine even with the DRZ, running a good quality power and ground line is crucial as well.. Coming from a home theater and home hifi mindset, seeing the expense some guys spend on just power cables even to run to expensive home preamps or preamp/processors and amps, I'm amazed that the little power line in the typical car harness powering typical head units is never really criticized. I guess there's a reason for that if indeed it's not necessary to go beyond the standard provided wiring, but I'd bet I'd want to run something more substantial direct from battery to a DRZ DC/DC power supply, and solid ground line, similar to a small amp install, just to be sure. After all, it is infact an audiophile quality preamp/processor.
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It comes with a Power lead that you hook directly to the battery; it's the same as a small Amp install.