what kind of subs are these?

( even the image title is audiobahn. )
Those are the new Treo Flame subs. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
because when i named the file, i saved it as "audiobahn".

so are those subs fairly powerful, i mean how would they hold up to some of the more popular brands guys use on here like XXX, etc. ??

 
can someone tell me the reasoning for reversing the subs with the magnets sticking outwards? i mean, it wouldnt sound any better wouldnt it? when the first time you guys ever seen people start doing this, few years ago or when?? i dont know much about this

 
can someone tell me the reasoning for reversing the subs with the magnets sticking outwards?
Because the chrome baskets are flashy and neat to look at.

(that's seriously the reason)

i mean, it wouldnt sound any better wouldnt it?
No.

when the first time you guys ever seen people start doing this, few years ago or when??
Shortly after the speaker was first invented.

It's not a new concept or anything. It's just inverting the driver to show off the basket/magnet assembly. Simple as that.

 
^also allows you to subtract the driver displacement from the net volume of the enclosure,

For instance, a 1cu box w/ a driver in it displacing 0.3cu = 0.7cu net

whereas you maybe able to invert that driver and the enclosure would net around 1.1cu

Would it sound different? Sure, with more net volume, the driver could potentially sound different at certain frequencies.

^pwned squeak. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 
^also allows you to subtract the driver displacement from the net volume of the enclosure,
For instance, a 1cu box w/ a driver in it displacing 0.3cu = 0.7cu net

whereas you maybe able to invert that driver and the enclosure would net around 1.1cu

Would it sound different? Sure, with more net volume, the driver could potentially sound different at certain frequencies.

^pwned squeak. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
That's why you just build the box slightly smaller, or otherwise decrease the net internal volume //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Sounds the same that way.

 
It's also used in drivers with smaller magnets to kill mounting depth. If Neodymium were cheaper, you'd see a lot of woofers using the method just because you could easily fit a (somewhat) long throw woofer in a car door.

 
For instance, a 1cu box w/ a driver in it displacing 0.3cu = 0.7cu net

whereas you maybe able to invert that driver and the enclosure would net around 1.1cu

^pwned squeak. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

How exactly does a 1 cubic foot enclosure gain volume by inverting the driver? No driver in the enclosure = 1 cubic foot. Driver inverted=1 cubic foot. Where'd you get the extra 1/10?

 
It's also used in drivers with smaller magnets to kill mounting depth. If Neodymium were cheaper, you'd see a lot of woofers using the method just because you could easily fit a (somewhat) long throw woofer in a car door.
Its not the price that keeps manufacturers from using neodymium magnets, its because so many people relate big magnets to extreme performance. I have seen more than one manufacturer say this is why they have not switched any (or any more) speakers over. But I have to admit Im just as guilty as the next guy, I like big butts on my subs.
 
i personally dont care how many grams my driver weighs.... as long as it dosen't look like a chromed out rapper. i swear to god, next kid that sits next to me trying to bump some audiobahns (and you always know whos doing it because you hear shitty music and see the silly ***** sticker on their window) is going to get one of those chrome flames jabbed through their skull

 
Its not the price that keeps manufacturers from using neodymium magnets, its because so many people relate big magnets to extreme performance. I have seen more than one manufacturer say this is why they have not switched any (or any more) speakers over. But I have to admit Im just as guilty as the next guy, I like big butts on my subs.

Not me I want to fit them under my seat where you can't see ANYTHING at all. Out of sight out of mind. Now if I could only get a Bramah, or XXX with a tiny neodymium I'd probably have my woofer of choice! but instead I have to get somethng with a less powerful smaller magnet...

 
Now if I could only get a Bramah, or XXX with a tiny neodymium I'd probably have my woofer of choice!
Dan Wiggins has said in the past that the Brahma could have had a much smaller motor assembly and maintained identical performance.....but they didn't think it had the same marketability.

 
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