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[RobGMN Premium Member]

That's all well and good. Just because a business has 100 employees doesn't mean they are at max or even report the max number of employees they could have. These places could simply hire more people to work. These aren't new jobs these are just position they chose to fill at a later time.

Job tracking isn't not accurate and is only estimated at best.

Your attempts at spin are pathetic. They show a complete lack of understanding for how the economy is measured.

Yes. 7 million businesses just chose to fill positions at a "later time".
Because that's a brilliant way for a businesses to make money.

How the **** can you be 48 years old and still think so much like a child?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

That's all well and good. Just because a business has 100 employees doesn't mean they are at max or even report the max number of employees they could have. These places could simply hire more people to work. These aren't new jobs these are just position they chose to fill at a later time.

Job tracking isn't not accurate and is only estimated at best.

LOL, by that definition no job is ever created since businesses always want to expand, they just haven't gotten around to it yet. I guess no jobs are really ever lost either, since even during economic contraction, companies still want to expand if/when the economic environment improves. Why is it that you're always creating these new and unique definitions of words and concepts? In doesn't mean in, an amp can be internally bridged with multiple outputs, I can't even decipher what choose means in Thx vernacular.

For the vast majority of people (most prominently economists) when a company had 100 employees and next week, month, year they have 100 + X employees, then X number of jobs have been created.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

When you ask questions that get answer 5 different ways, but you still don't understand, then it's obvious you need to be educated. When people just cannot "get" a concept, simplified examples or analogies are usually helpful.

Who KNOWS what they were doing before. Maybe they were one half of a two-income household. Maybe they were newer entrants to the workforce who had not been employed yet. Maybe they were living off the grace of others until they could get back on their feet.
There's a million stories in the ***** city.

Regardless, the numbers indicate there are more jobs being filled, which brought unemployment to record lows.

If you want to discredit Biden and claim it's people getting off welfare, then I guess you can credit Biden for reducing the use of welfare.
If you want to somehow say no new jobs exist, then I guess you can credit Biden for somehow getting people to fill jobs that have been empty for a long time.

No matter how you want to spin it, there is a positive from unemployment being lower than it has been in 50 years. And it happened under a Democrat administration.

I agree, I don't know why I engage you in conversation. I make some statements and ask some questions and you take it how you always take things, like someone is trying to discredit someone, challenge you in some way or is somehow asking for you to educate them without actually asking.

Sure, there are "more jobs being filled", a point that I agree with but that doesn't mean they are newly created jobs courtesy of Mr. Joe Biden. Since when is it his duty to remove or create new jobs for Americans? Is he some kind of philanthropist who just wants to help others or is he the President and should be focusing on that career choice?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

LOL, by that definition no job is ever created since businesses always want to expand, they just haven't gotten around to it yet. I guess no jobs are really ever lost either, since even during economic contraction, companies still want to expand if/when the economic environment improves. Why is it that you're always creating these new and unique definitions of words and concepts? In doesn't mean in, an amp can be internally bridged with multiple outputs, I can't even decipher what choose means in Thx vernacular.

For the vast majority of people (most prominently economists) when a company had 100 employees and next week, month, year they have 100 + X employees, then X number of jobs have been created.

See it however you like. Tell me, why is your view the be all end all? Why couldn't this company have 100 employees then at a later date decide to fill existing but unused positions with employees as they need them as the business grows? These aren't new jobs, they are new employees.

When you are in a car that can hold 5 adults and you have two adults in the car then decide to pick up 3 more adults are you adding new seats to the car? The seats are a metaphor for jobs. Just in case it was too simple an example for you guys.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I agree, I don't know why I engage you in conversation. I make some statements and ask some questions and you take it how you always take things, like someone is trying to discredit someone, challenge you in some way or is somehow asking for you to educate them without actually asking.

Sure, there are "more jobs being filled", a point that I agree with but that doesn't mean they are newly created jobs courtesy of Mr. Joe Biden. Since when is it his duty to remove or create new jobs for Americans? Is he some kind of philanthropist who just wants to help others or is he the President and should be focusing on that career choice?

Do you really NOT understand these most simple mathematical concepts, or are you simply fvcking around here, playing some kind of weird devils advocate?

THE JOBS WERE NOT SIMPLY LANGUISHING FOR DECADES, WAITING TO BE FILLED.
THAT’S NOT HOW BUSINESS WORKS.

LIKE JIMI SAID: BY YOUR LOGIC, THERE WOULD NEVER BE NEW JOBS; THEY WOULD ALWAYS JUST BE THERE, WAITING TO BE FILLED.

A president gets credit (be it good or bad) for what occurs during their presidency. If you want to say Biden is not responsible for what is happening during his presidency, then you must do the same for Trump. And Obama. And Bush. And so on.

Pick your lane. Does POTUS get credit and take responsibility, or not?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

There were job position "languishing" when biden took office...remember the covid bs

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Do you really NOT understand these most simple mathematical concepts, or are you simply fvcking around here, playing some kind of weird devils advocate?

THE JOBS WERE NOT SIMPLY LANGUISHING FOR DECADES, WAITING TO BE FILLED.
THAT’S NOT HOW BUSINESS WORKS.

LIKE JIMI SAID: BY YOUR LOGIC, THERE WOULD NEVER BE NEW JOBS; THEY WOULD ALWAYS JUST BE THERE, WAITING TO BE FILLED.

A president gets credit (be it good or bad) for what occurs during their presidency. If you want to say Biden is not responsible for what is happening during his presidency, then you must do the same for Trump. And Obama. And Bush. And so on.

Pick your lane. Does POTUS get credit and take responsibility, or not?

You really are an absolutist aren't you? It's either one way or the other, there is no in between with you lefties.

I didn't say ALL FUCKING JOBS.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Trump’s claimed accomplishments.
#1 on the list.
Not his achievement or responsibility per Thxone.
So why is he claiming it?
I guess all these jobs just existed and were waiting to be filled. No new jobs were actually created.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Trump’s claimed accomplishments.
#1 on the list.
Not his achievement or responsibility per Thxone.
So why is he claiming it?
I guess all these jobs just existed and were waiting to be filled. No new jobs were actually created.

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Where YOU would say Biden created new jobs this says America gained new jobs. Are you now saying that a person such as yourself who demands facts and blah blah blah can't see that there is a difference?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Where YOU would say Biden created new jobs this says America gained new jobs. Are you now saying that a person such as yourself who demands facts and blah blah blah can't see that there is a difference?

I never once said Biden created any jobs. I spoke to unemployment dropping lower under Biden than it has been in 50 years.

YOU have been doing everything you can to deny this fact.

So let’s get this settled. Answer these questions outright, please. No diversion, no goalpost moving, no answering questions with questions.

1. If no new jobs were created, how do you explain unemployment dropping lower than it has been in 50 years?
2. Do we give credit or adding responsibility to the POTUS for things our country experiences while they are in office?
I’m speaking to things that have traditionally been credited or blamed on a POTUS for a century or more, not things like an oil tanker accidental spill, or a natural disaster, etc.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I never once said Biden created any jobs. I spoke to unemployment dropping lower under Biden than it has been in 50 years.

YOU have been doing everything you can to deny this fact.

So let’s get this settled. Answer these questions outright, please. No diversion, no goalpost moving, no answering questions with questions.

1. If no new jobs were created, how do you explain unemployment dropping lower than it has been in 50 years?
2. Do we give credit or adding responsibility to the POTUS for things our country experiences while they are in office?
I’m speaking to things that have traditionally been credited or blamed on a POTUS for a century or more, not things like an oil tanker accidental spill, or a natural disaster, etc.

What do I care. These were YOUR talking points when you were ignoring my questions. They have nothing to do with YOU answering my questions so I really just don't give a shit. Why do you demand answers but don't feel you should answer anything? Are you this much of a control freak? Ignore questions, demand answers. You haven't gotten an answer on this 50 year shit from me since YOU made it a topic while not answering my questions. Now you will repeat it over and over and over.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

What do I care. These were YOUR talking points when you were ignoring my questions. They have nothing to do with YOU answering my questions so I really just don't give a shit. Why do you demand answers but don't feel you should answer anything? Are you this much of a control freak? Ignore questions, demand answers. You haven't gotten an answer on this 50 year shit from me since YOU made it a topic while not answering my questions. Now you will repeat it over and over and over.

Amazing. You once again refuse to answer any questions that might paint your desired narrative in a bad light.

Tell me, why do you bother posting all of your weird theories and feelings here if you’re going to refuse to support them in any way?
You HAVE to know that if you post bullshit in Thunderdome, someone is going to call you on it, and you’re going to look the hill when you can’t support what you say.

What’s there to gain from it?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Amazing. You once again refuse to answer any questions that might paint your desired narrative in a bad light.

Tell me, why do you bother posting all of your weird theories and feelings here if you’re going to refuse to support them in any way?
You HAVE to know that if you post bullshit in Thunderdome, someone is going to call you on it, and you’re going to look the hill when you can’t support what you say.

What’s there to gain from it?

DITTO!!!! Why do you refuse to answer my questions fucko???

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

DITTO!!!! Why do you refuse to answer my questions fucko???

When you ask a question that has no relevance to the discussion, there is no point in answering it.

When you ask a philosophical question that cannot be answered, there is no point in trying.

When something is explained to you but you refuse to understand or believe it because it proves your theory wrong, it makes it even less likely you’ll ask a question that is even worth answering.

You constantly whine about people not bring conversational with you.
Maybe you should try actually having one, instead of positing a bunch ofMeaningless bullshit, constantly backpedaling in tap dancing your way around the actual subject.