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I am curious. Are the powers that be counting deaths from the COVID vaccines as COVID deaths?

“ In general, people are considered fully vaccinated: ±

2 weeks after their second dose in a 2-dose series, such as the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or
2 weeks after a single-dose vaccine, such as Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen vaccine
If you don’t meet these requirements, regardless of your age, you are NOT fully vaccinated.”


So if you die within 2 weeks of getting your shots....
 
Then what in the f*ck is the point of taking the vaccine?
The same as wearing a fu*king seatbelt: risk reduction.
No coincidence that almost every hospital admission with COVID is an unvaccinated person.
Get vexed, stay out of the hospital, be less of a burden on society, be far less likely to cause OTHERS to be a burden on society.
Not to mention reducing pain and suffering of the ill AND their families.
 
Irrelevant. A dead person is a dead person. They died after getting the vaccine. You ask, I answered. Now you want more answers. Go get them yourself.
It’s relevant when you previously posited that a 1% death rate from COVID was not a big deal.

That death rate from COVID is 1,000x what it is from getting vaccinated.
That’s why we are at 700,000 deaths from 49 million cases of COVID but only 5,000 deaths from 397 million doses of vaccine.
That is just a hair over one one-thousandth of one percent. That’s losing a dollar for every hundred grand in your pocket, versus a thousand dollars.

Remember math can be used to prove many things. It can also backfire if you don’t consider all the angles.
 
It’s relevant when you previously posited that a 1% death rate from COVID was not a big deal.

That death rate from COVID is 1,000x what it is from getting vaccinated.
That’s why we are at 700,000 deaths from 49 million cases of COVID but only 5,000 deaths from 397 million doses of vaccine.
That is just a hair over one one-thousandth of one percent. That’s losing a dollar for every hundred grand in your pocket, versus a thousand dollars.

Remember math can be used to prove many things. It can also backfire if you don’t consider all the angles.
So only big numbers matter to you. Deaths from the vaccine itself are acceptable losses? Smaller number = less significant. That's what you mean. That's what you inferred. You are a wonderful human being.

You also speak of the non vaccinated affecting society and being a burden on society... what you mean is a burden on you, it affects you. You don't care two fuucks about other people. You are only worried that some unvaccinated person might get you sick. You selfish piece of trash.
 
So only big numbers matter to you. Deaths from the vaccine itself are acceptable losses? Smaller number = less significant. That's what you mean. That's what you inferred. You are a wonderful human being.

You also speak of the non vaccinated affecting society and being a burden on society... what you mean is a burden on you, it affects you. You don't care two fuucks about other people. You are only worried that some unvaccinated person might get you sick. You selfish piece of trash.
Have you ever heard of the "greater good"? It's a concept where the benefits outweigh the costs, even when the costs can be harsh.
It's the reason 10 soldiers risk their lives to save one. It's the reason one soldier will throw their body on a grenade to save one.

When the 5,000 deaths from the vaccine happen because a MILLION or more lives are saved, it's the greater good. Kind of like the polio vaccine that save millions from horrible disfigurement and death, even though it came at great expense to many when there were vaccine failures.

Don't virtue signal that you are worried about 5,000 deaths when you previously acted as if 700,000 dead was no big deal because COVID had a 99% recovery rate. The vaccine has a 99.9999% recovery rate. That's 1,000 better than COVID, yet it worries you when COVID doesn't?
A 99% survival rate is good, but a 99.9999% survival rate is bad? Not much sense in that, even with your limited understanding of math.

Yes, a burden on society. I am concerned for our economic future and our ability to recover from this pandemic in the short term. Pretty phuqing important that we stay competitive with the world, especially with your feigned concern about terrorist enemies. Hard to be a superpower without power. MONEY is power. I also don;t want to be personally burdened when an unvaxxed person gets me or mine sick and unable to work or worse.
I've lost too many family members due to the wanton disregard for safety by others. I am VERY fuucking selfish when it comes to wanting my family to stay alive. And I will sacrifice my life if necessary to keep them alive. I'm sure you;d run from the grenade and let your family die.

You won't even avoid polluting the environment since you won't see the pollution when you are dead (despite your daughter still living in the world), and you call ME selfish trash? That is ironic to the point of sublime.
 
Have you ever heard of the "greater good"? It's a concept where the benefits outweigh the costs, even when the costs can be harsh.
It's the reason 10 soldiers risk their lives to save one. It's the reason one soldier will throw their body on a grenade to save one.

When the 5,000 deaths from the vaccine happen because a MILLION or more lives are saved, it's the greater good. Kind of like the polio vaccine that save millions from horrible disfigurement and death, even though it came at great expense to many when there were vaccine failures.

Don't virtue signal that you are worried about 5,000 deaths when you previously acted as if 700,000 dead was no big deal because COVID had a 99% recovery rate. The vaccine has a 99.9999% recovery rate. That's 1,000 better than COVID, yet it worries you when COVID doesn't?
A 99% survival rate is good, but a 99.9999% survival rate is bad? Not much sense in that, even with your limited understanding of math.

Yes, a burden on society. I am concerned for our economic future and our ability to recover from this pandemic in the short term. Pretty phuqing important that we stay competitive with the world, especially with your feigned concern about terrorist enemies. Hard to be a superpower without power. MONEY is power. I also don;t want to be personally burdened when an unvaxxed person gets me or mine sick and unable to work or worse.
I've lost too many family members due to the wanton disregard for safety by others. I am VERY fuucking selfish when it comes to wanting my family to stay alive. And I will sacrifice my life if necessary to keep them alive. I'm sure you;d run from the grenade and let your family die.

You won't even avoid polluting the environment since you won't see the pollution when you are dead (despite your daughter still living in the world), and you call ME selfish trash? That is ironic to the point of sublime.
Well there you have it. Thanks for letting us know who you are.
 
Who is saying COVID is a hoax? COVID is real. It's a nasty virus. However, not everyone that has COVID and dies, died from COVID. Or because of COVID. Some people just die. It is easier to say a person died of COVID when they had COVID instead of something else killing them. Like SDS.

If a person has a coronary condition and then gets COVID and dies because their heart stopped, why do we say he or she died of COVID. Why isn't the coronary episode the cause of death and the COVID just a happenstance?
The death crt DOESN'T say they died from COVID it says they died from what COVID caused. Same as getting beheaded from a car accident. The DC doesn't say COD is "car accident"; it describes the beheading that is a result OF the car accident.

So, if someone is beheaded in an car accident, do you not think the car accident was primary causation? Do you think their head would just naturally have fallen off?

Now apply that to COVID. People are dying from a multitude of things that COVID is causing, such as heart attack from oxygen starvation, caused by COVID. Presuming that they would have just died without getting COVID is a fool's folly, given the extreme death toll that has occurred. It's just being blind to the reality of what has been happening worldwide since February 2020.
 
Well there you have it. Thanks for letting us know who you are.
A better person than you, for sure.

And good job of avoiding the very crux of my post, which once again turns your argument on it's head, and turns it against you. Flip-flopping, disingenuous hypocrite.
Afraid to speak to your virtue signaling that backfired?
Afraid to tell us why 99% survival rate is good, yet 99.9999% survival rate is bad?

Try thinking a few moves ahead when you say things. It might become more difficult to thrash your arguments if you do.
 
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A better person than you, for sure.

And good job of avoiding the very crux of my post, which once again turns your argument on it's head, and turns it against you. Flip-flopping, disingenuous hypocrite.
Afraid to speak to your virtue signaling that backfired?
Afraid to tell us why 99% survival rate is good, yet 99.9999% survival rate is bad?

Try thinking a few moves ahead when you say things. It might become more difficult to thrash your arguments if you do.
What makes you a better person than someone else? Is it just the fear you have that makes you good? You’re a punk *****.
 
A better person than you, for sure.
You have no idea what kind of person I am fella. All you have are assumptions based on post on an internet website. You haven't the slightest clue what I have done in my life, the people I have interacted with, the people who's lives I touched. You are an internet troll who joined this website to bolster your ego and argue with anyone you can argue with. I joined this website because I am a fan of car audio and I like interacting with people.

I hope you really are a better person than me. That means you have done some pretty amazing things and you have touched many peoples lives for the better. If this is indeed true, good for you.
 
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