what glue does moelester use on his boxes?!?!?!

[ramos 5,000+ posts]

Hey now, I whole heartedly believe in bracing. I to use screws sometimes, I also use the trusty brad nailer as well. Never had any problems with either to be honest. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

i have built plenty off boxes, have tried plenty of different glues, a box that is held together by glue alone, is no better then a prefab box. just tuned different.

This is wrong.

And you are arguing over the wrong thing man. The woods breaking point is lower than that of the glued part. If the box breaks, that's nice. But were talking about the bond breaking here.

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

whats wrong with liquid nail:crap:

It forms a surface bond, where as wood glue forms a chemical bond between the 2 pieces.

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

Scottie doesn't use screws either, I assume you'd think he's wrong too? There are some EXTREMELY intelligent people telling you how it really is... maybe you should listen to them.

I have no car audio idols.

 

[PowerNaudio 10+ year member]

Scottie doesn't use screws either, I assume you'd think he's wrong too? There are some EXTREMELY intelligent people telling you how it really is... maybe you should listen to them.

OK guy, if you prefer doing it one way cool. if your idols do it that way and you want to follow fine,

i was just expressing my opinion on this subject, again i use glue!!!!!!!!!!, i would not solely relay on it for the strength of the enclosure.

i never intended to insult anyone intelligence.

if that's the way you feel about it, then that's not really my fault.

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

i have built plenty off boxes, have tried plenty of different glues, a box that is held together by glue alone, is no better then a prefab box. just tuned different.
and

no, ones the glue dries and you remove the screws you can brake the box easier then if it still had the screws.

another thing that will play a big role in the strength of the glue is how much area does the glue have to hold on to. so the thicker the wood the more area you have for the glue to grab on to the joints, giving the appearance of a stronger box.

like i said that's just how I build them. if you like making them with just glue that's fine.

do you brace your boxes?, or do you think that's a waist of time as well?

my friend used to have a professionally made box "" at a local shop that was not screwed together but had the small nails in and glue.

he wanted a box that would better compliment the subs, which i built for him, when i was done with the install, we kicked the other box apart, very easily.

edit,

the glue was still holding on to the mdf board but the board broke over the glue. and the nails pulled out. if it had been screwed together it would of taken more punishment.

please dont compare a box "some shop" or a pre-fab to something you have never even seen first hand. You dont know what you're talking about.

 

[PowerNaudio 10+ year member]

please dont compare a box "some shop" or a pre-fab to something you have never even seen first hand. You dont know what you're talking about.

what are you talking about?. what have i not seen first hand?

the strenght of a box put together by glue alone?

 

[InhumanAcura 5,000+ posts]

what are you talking about?. what have i not seen first hand?the strenght of a box put together by glue alone?

im not gonna to go back and forth with you..hopefully you got my point, not seeming that way though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[vosschs 5,000+ posts]

really any wood glue would work, just use a good amount and use clamps, wood glue is harder than the wood itself

http://www.hardwareworld.com/4oz-Titebond-Iii-Woodglue-p10KAVI.aspx

edit also at first i thought the title says what glue does a moelester use on his box:eyebrow:

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

i have built plenty off boxes, have tried plenty of different glues, a box that is held together by glue alone, is no better then a prefab box. just tuned different.
and

no, ones the glue dries and you remove the screws you can brake the box easier then if it still had the screws.

another thing that will play a big role in the strength of the glue is how much area does the glue have to hold on to. so the thicker the wood the more area you have for the glue to grab on to the joints, giving the appearance of a stronger box.

like i said that's just how I build them. if you like making them with just glue that's fine.

do you brace your boxes?, or do you think that's a waist of time as well?

my friend used to have a professionally made box "" at a local shop that was not screwed together but had the small nails in and glue.

he wanted a box that would better compliment the subs, which i built for him, when i was done with the install, we kicked the other box apart, very easily.

edit,

the glue was still holding on to the mdf board but the board broke over the glue. and the nails pulled out. if it had been screwed together it would of taken more punishment.

i thought that's what the whole point of the discussion was about? people are saying that the bond between the 2 pieces of wood will not break before the wood will break. since you have agreed why are you arguing? also if you have a sub that can bust a sheet of 3/4" MDF in half, then holly balls.

 

[MisterE 10+ year member]

i think hes saying that using screws and glue is stronger than just using glue.

i use liquid nails but its a biyatch to clean up, is titebond any easier?

 

[vosschs 5,000+ posts]

i think hes saying that using screws and glue is stronger than just using glue.
i use liquid nails but its a biyatch to clean up, is titebond any easier?

thats quite obvious

 

[ramos 5,000+ posts]

Yep, drop the liquid nails. Pick up some tite bond, gorilla glue, or another urethane wood glue. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Justinw303 10+ year member]

i thought that's what the whole point of the discussion was about? people are saying that the bond between the 2 pieces of wood will not break before the wood will break. since you have agreed why are you arguing? also if you have a sub that can bust a sheet of 3/4" MDF in half, then holly balls.

Lol. This man has a point.

Glue alone is just fine by me. Seeing as how Moe is currently building me a box, and I trust him completely, I've got full confidence in his glue.

 

[saywhat? 5,000+ posts]

where did u get the titebond 3? all I can find at my local stores is the original and II

Lowes has it....green label.