what causes: bottoming out?

[hazardous0388 10+ year member]

what causes subs to bottom out? tinsel slap? box tuning?

Thanks in advance.

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[twisztdauthorit 10+ year member]

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[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

lmao @ op

 

[hazardous0388 10+ year member]

sorry for the question. i am pushing my apx's a pretty good amount right now. it seems like when i turn it up pretty loud it just sounds lke it bottoms out. im unsure if it's due to tinsel slap or not. I'm just use to having woven tinsel leads and not worrying about this issue.

 

[hazardous0388 10+ year member]

lmao @ op

Lmao at your boss amp

 

[mr_kebo 10+ year member]

Lmao at your boss amp

lol

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

the coil former slamming into the back plate. in other words, when the sub moves too far, and yes, it can be caused by playing below box tuning.

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

sorry for the question. i am pushing my apx's a pretty good amount right now. it seems like when i turn it up pretty loud it just sounds lke it bottoms out. im unsure if it's due to tinsel slap or not. I'm just use to having woven tinsel leads and not worrying about this issue.

the ID's i installed have woven tinsels and i bottomed out while tuning today. nasty nasty sound. first time i had ever heard it, scared the shit out of me lol

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

the coil former slamming into the back plate. in other words, when the sub moves too far, and yes, it can be caused by playing below box tuning.

i did it today with a sealed box? i just turned the SSF up a little and the gain down a smidge and problem solved.

only on the new lil wayne cd did it happen.

 

[hazardous0388 10+ year member]

the coil former slamming into the back plate. in other words, when the sub moves too far, and yes, it can be caused by playing below box tuning.

I appreciate the info on what the actual definition is. What are ways to solve this? does it vary from sub to sub? such as an individual sub to individual sub EVEN if it is the same type of sub?

SRim23, I appreciate your insight as well. Ive just never had an issue with bottoming out OR tinsel slap, so I'm just unsure which one it is.

 

[Lingerfelt 10+ year member]

Lmao at your boss amp

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[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

I appreciate the info on what the actual definition is. What are ways to solve this? does it vary from sub to sub? such as an individual sub to individual sub EVEN if it is the same type of sub?
SRim23, I appreciate your insight as well. Ive just never had an issue with bottoming out OR tinsel slap, so I'm just unsure which one it is.

honestly i cant even tell you that what i did was bottoming out i know it was a nasty noise, and i noticed the surround was like starting to crease (if that makes sense) so im assuming it was bottoming out.

just seems to me the simple explanation is driving the sub past its limits and gotta find a way to cut the excursions a little , ( turning gain down a little, SSF, Crossover, boost) ive been playing with my amp settings for 2 days now and im never satisfied lol most of it is trial and error.

 

[ultimate157 5,000+ posts]

Too much power for the given enclosure/frequency/tuning

 

[ultimate157 5,000+ posts]

Lmao at your boss amp

Don't forget bottom of the line subs.

 

[hazardous0388 10+ year member]

Don't forget bottom of the line subs.

Yes..that was in my mind as well. I don't insult people on here for asking VALID questions. This IMO, is a valid question on my part, and I don't expect to get bad feedback, such as that, for asking a valid question.

Will bigger subs pretty much solve the issue? what stops tinsel slap?

Thanks in Advance.

Dustin