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FYI... the USA only stays above the population replacement rate of 2.1 children per woman due to "illegal" immigration. Without immigration our work force would be shrinking until we had a huge shortage of labor to fill the open jobs, especially lower-paying labor and factory jobs.

With many of these immigrants having children at much higher rates than "natural" US citizens, that are in turn legal US tax-payers when they enter the work force they will be helping us shoulder the enormous Social Security burden. I know some people complain now that illegal immigrants use our free services, and they do, but wouldn't you? It's our governments fault for offering the services, not theirs for using them... remember that. Anyhow, their children will be tax-payers when they enter the work force -- and without them there would be a large labor shortage and an even more massive tax deficit vs. expenditure in this country.

For that matter... quite a few illegals are applying for tax-payer ID numbers to pay taxes. You would be surprised at how many are doing this, and even paying tax professionals to help them pay their taxes since they WANT to contribute even not being a citizen. If it weren't so hard to come here legally and become a citizen I'm sure they would be glad to do it -- all of the immigrants that I know certainly would.

Some countries like South Korea will be feeling the effects of a fertility rate under 2.1 in the coming years when more workers are dying than entering the work force. It won't be pretty... so be careful what you wish for on immigration "reform" in this country.

 
FYI... the USA only stays above the population replacement rate of 2.1 children per woman due to "illegal" immigration. Without immigration our work force would be shrinking until we had a huge shortage of labor to fill the open jobs, especially lower-paying labor and factory jobs.
With many of these immigrants having children at much higher rates than "natural" US citizens, that are in turn legal US tax-payers when they enter the work force they will be helping us shoulder the enormous Social Security burden. I know some people complain now that illegal immigrants use our free services, and they do, but wouldn't you? It's our governments fault for offering the services, not theirs for using them... remember that. Anyhow, their children will be tax-payers when they enter the work force -- and without them there would be a large labor shortage and an even more massive tax deficit vs. expenditure in this country.

For that matter... quite a few illegals are applying for tax-payer ID numbers to pay taxes. You would be surprised at how many are doing this, and even paying tax professionals to help them pay their taxes since they WANT to contribute even not being a citizen. If it weren't so hard to come here legally and become a citizen I'm sure they would be glad to do it -- all of the immigrants that I know certainly would.

Some countries like South Korea will be feeling the effects of a fertility rate under 2.1 in the coming years when more workers are dying than entering the work force. It won't be pretty... so be careful what you wish for on immigration "reform" in this country.
well said...now where were you when i was preaching the same to the choir a year ago?

 
I am going to lol as automation becomes cheaper than hispanic workers.
Automation is cheaper as scale increases, unlike workers...whose price increases exponentially.
Automation doesn't pay taxes to cover expenses for our retired workers either //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif And remember, by the time that much automation is implemented we'll have a slew of legal US citizens, children of immigrants, that will be just as qualified to operate the machinery as anyone else.

I would wager that the fertility rate of "natural" US citizen is really incredibly low. So many people have only 1 kid or no kids these days. A large population decrease wouldn't be healthy for our economy, automation or not.

 
I understand and agree, but by now you know me well enough to know I don't anticipate every operating those types of machines for pay.

I plan to move to Mexico....everyone I talk to in the financial community plan on leaving the US in the next 20 years or so. Cuba will also be a good place if we can set up a somewhat stable democracy there after Castro dies.

Point being, if these places can set up a halfway decent legal system...the economic system will follow. Currently, they have little to no regulations or taxes. Look at Dubai? Without those incentives no one would want to live there.

My father finds this extremely ironic.

 
I understand and agree, but by now you know me well enough to know I don't anticipate every operating those types of machines for pay.
I plan to move to Mexico....everyone I talk to in the financial community plan on leaving the US in the next 20 years or so. Cuba will also be a good place if we can set up a somewhat stable democracy there after Castro dies.

Point being, if these places can set up a halfway decent legal system...the economic system will follow. Currently, they have little to no regulations or taxes. Look at Dubai? Without those incentives no one would want to live there.

My father finds this extremely ironic.
Mexico is growing very nicely and is now home to the richest man in the world //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Plenty of nice places to live around there too -- my girlfriend is from Acapulco, I wouldn't mind living there.

I see what you mean, and I agree as well, the US does have it's share of problems which may grow to un-manageable levels in the coming years.

 
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