Want to know the truth behind audiophiles? I will explain!

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

They are ****ing retarded.

http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/sonics2/allegra.html

The total cost of drivers in this speaker is under 600 dollars. The x-over cannot be over 300 dollars, as it's a split slope 2nd/4th order. Where's the other 6k+ come from? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

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[Racerx250 10+ year member]

maybe it's rare wood.

 

[Racerx250 10+ year member]

or the screws they use to hold the drivers.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

Sensible business to me.

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

Before everybody really starts hating 6Loons, they have reviewed decently-priced items in the past, like the Zigmahornets: http://6moons.com/audioreviews/zigmahornet/zigmahornet.html...Wal-Mart wire & an original PlayStation as well //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Heck, even the Fi amplifiers are well-priced considering the craftsmanship.

 

[1loudsuv 10+ year member]

So do you think everything you buy say for $100 costs them $50 to make? or $1000 speakers cost them $500 to make? Dont bash it without knowing the facts, guessing it will most likely be way off what they paid for it. Just the other day I discovered nikes that cost $150 at stores costs nike $10 to make...

 

[2critical 10+ year member]

So do you think everything you buy say for $100 costs them $50 to make? or $1000 speakers cost them $500 to make? Dont bash it without knowing the facts, guessing it will most likely be way off what they paid for it. Just the other day I discovered nikes that cost $150 at stores costs nike $10 to make...

Yeah but Nike has to pay for all those basketball players though right? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif Seriously though there is a lot more R&D that goes into the home stereo products than our "MTX box"

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

They used Seas drivers, but didn't even use the Millennium tweet //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

Or heck, even the Excel midrange for that matter...

 

[desertheat 10+ year member]

*LOL* Wow.... You're definitly paying for fancy woodwork and that is about it. Funny thing is I am building a VERY similar project for my home speakers useing zd5's for the top end and dual 10" per side Vifa MA26WR02-08 for the bottom... Speakers, cabs, crossovers and even the amps to drive the bottom end will run me less than $1200 for the pair woohoo! And my setup I can pretty much guarantee will blow the doors off that over priced monkey coffin.

On the side note, the millennium tweet is NOTHING special at all, it is nice but there are many better choices for the money.. but that guy used the H1283 *LOL* that is a freakin $30.00ea tweet! *LOL*

The mids looks like CA18RNX which I am 95% sure they are which run $65.00 ea

And the subs look like L26RFX/P which run about $145 ea. Very confident that is what he used...... these are street / retail prices of course so cut the price by at least 40-50% and you get what the the builder paid. We would pay about $780 for the drivers, they would have paid about $350-$390 for drivers on average, most likley a lot less if he as in with seas as good as he says he is "I know I do a ton of purchases well under jobber prices" *LOL* **** $7410 for cabs & crossovers... Wow...

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

So do you think everything you buy say for $100 costs them $50 to make? or $1000 speakers cost them $500 to make? Dont bash it without knowing the facts, guessing it will most likely be way off what they paid for it. Just the other day I discovered nikes that cost $150 at stores costs nike $10 to make...

Are you shitting me? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif Nikes versus speakers? Loudspeaker technology hasn't changed much in the past 50 years, to be quite honest. You build an enclosure, that is sonically dead, pick good drivers and filters, and input power. That's the gist of it. You can get creative with various alignments and what not, but there is no R&D going into an enclosure that DOES WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO. Seriously, did you read the article? I own 6 of the **** tweeters in the project, and they cost 40 bucks each. No rudimentary loudspeaker is worth 8k, no where even close. I want to pay for something special, not drivers I can buy anywhere, nor some exotic (maple is exotic by the way) veneer that adds nothing to the cabinet.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

*LOL* Wow.... You're definitly paying for fancy woodwork and that is about it. Funny thing is I am building a VERY similar project for my home speakers useing zd5's for the top end and dual 10" per side Vifa MA26WR02-08 for the bottom... Speakers, cabs, crossovers and even the amps to drive the bottom end will run me less than $1200 for the pair woohoo!

On the side note, the millennium tweet is NOTHING special at all, it is nice but there are many better choices for the money.. but that guy used the H1283 *LOL* that is a freakin $30.00ea tweet! *LOL*

The mids looks like CA18RNX which I am 95% sure they are which run $65.00 ea

And the subs look like L26RFX/P which run about $145 ea. Very confident that is what he used...... these are street / retail prices of course so cut the price by at least 40-50% and you get what the the builder paid. We would pay about $780 for the drivers, they would have paid about $350-$390 for drivers on average, most likley a lot less if he as in with seas as good as he says he is "I know I do a ton of purchases well under jobber prices" *LOL* **** $7410 for cabs & crossovers... Wow...

Exactly.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/5cables/1.html

The venue's ambience was illuminated as though the light switch in a dim room had been flipped on. Notes hung effortlessly in the air, pregnant with harmonic overtones. The exceptionally low noise floor gave a clear view into the spatial layers of the music while simultaneously shedding light on a sea of inner details and dynamic shadings. These are agile, effortless sounding cables and did I mention that they are lively? My listening room was charged with the energy present in the recording. The 1400s are detailed although not microscopically so. Mid bass is fast and taut, giving acoustic bass and kick drums visceral impact and clear pitch definition.

Tell me, Mr. R&D, does this sound like something a pair of wires can do?

 

[bds0688 10+ year member]

XDXD

I still enjoy the one douche's review of the "craz rack". Their writing is ****ing god awful, only trumped by ther leg humping of useless shit. I wonder why the recording engineers don't pick up on these amazing designs? Or guitar amp manufacturers, synth makers, mixer companies? Why don't they use these awesome cables instead of stock black with solid connectors as to not wear out from use?

Oh wait, these twats can somehow make the recording better than it was in the recording room. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

XDXD
I still enjoy the one douche's review of the "craz rack". Their writing is ****ing god awful, only trumped by ther leg humping of useless shit. I wonder why the recording engineers don't pick up on these amazing designs? Or guitar amp manufacturers, synth makers, mixer companies? Why don't they use these awesome cables instead of stock black with solid connectors as to not wear out from use?

Oh wait, these twats can somehow make the recording better than it was in the recording room. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif I always think of that. How can a speaker make something sound better than when it was created? I've played the piano for 15 years now, and sure, I can almost definitely tell what kind of piano (or not) someone is playing if I'm standing there. Baldwins have a slightly warmer sound than a Steinway's open and airy sound, compared to Yamaha and Samick's "muffled" tone. Without seeing the piano aka hearing it on a recording, there is no way to tell. Even when you're told what it is, you can assume that it's just bad recording/reproduction. Tell me, how is it that these audiophiles can make things sound better than they physically can?
And yes I'm serious about the piano thing, that isn't audiophile snake oil. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[desertheat 10+ year member]

You paid $40 for those tweets, you got ripped //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif hahahahah just messin with ya.