Want to have $5 dollar a gallon gas?

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Get this Pelosi bought stock in Clean Energy Corp in August of 2007 and this bill is making the stock of this company sky rocket.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

Get this Pelosi bought stock in Clean Energy Corp in August of 2007 and this bill is making the stock of this company sky rocket.

its all lobbying and money as usual, this time they just have the tree huggin hippies on their side

 

[bumpweLL.nYc 10+ year member]

is this the straw that breaks the camels back?

somebodys gona snap, mcveigh style

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

is this the straw that breaks the camels back?
somebodys gona snap, mcveigh style

if it ever kicks in it will be historic that i will bet money on. He wants too much control and wants old people to eat pain killers

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

Because it was so great under the Republicans //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Dems have been in control of the congress (aka spending) since 2006 dipshit. Yeah, Bush was NOT a conservative and never used the veto pen when he should have...but you can also place the blame squarely on Nancy Pelosi, Barnie Frank, Harry Reid, Chris Dodd and the Fed.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Dems have been in control of the congress (aka spending) since 2006 dipshit. Yeah, Bush was NOT a conservative and never used the veto pen when he should have...but you can also place the blame squarely on Nancy Pelosi, Barnie Frank, Harry Reid, Chris Dodd and the Fed.

Barney's Frank is a liar. He was one of the democrats who soap boxxed nothing was wrong. He was a big reason people got loans they couldn't afford and he is trying to do the same with apartment housing. He lies and says he was for rental housing in the 90's-2000's yet is doing the very samething with condo's.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Warren Buffet who supported Obama slams the bill.

Obama even says it in the campaign power will sky rocket and their use of "greenhouse gasses" is also disingenuous as to what they are "capping" the vast majority is not harmful unless you think the earth should be plant free (talking trees,grass ect)

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

Barney's Frank is a liar. He was one of the democrats who soap boxxed nothing was wrong. He was a big reason people got loans they couldn't afford and he is trying to do the same with apartment housing. He lies and says he was for rental housing in the 90's-2000's yet is doing the very samething with condo's.

Yeah, well, the idiots in MA keep electing the ***.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

What is funny about this people who run for electionoften said big oil companies and coal companies were evil and ***** the American people for huge profit. Truth be told governments made more money off of energy in taxes and excise taxes by nearly a 3 to 1 margin and that is just going off of data from 1977-2004. Government uses it to expand its powers and anymore people just let it happen.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

I wonder if anyone who was arguing with me over what this bill was about over the last week is bothering to watch the debate and the ACTUAL facts being argued on CSPAN. They know this will lose old jobs they will just buy into industry more so government controls more industry with OUR money..and yes indeed it is carbon dioxide and NEEDED gas for plants and trees not polution gasses. This is pathetic. The CBO's own numbers shows this will KILL the middleclass and make poverty even worse.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

They are forcing a vote through while the bill is missing over 300 pages that 99.2% of the people voting have not seen LOL...also if you consider carbon dioxide a pollutant then we should no longer be able to exhale ..in other words you are anti life be it animal or plant.

 

[.::DuD3::. 10+ year member]

What you don't realize is the climate is not a linear system. Its a non-linear system in that if one thing changes, it can spark chaos in other parts of the system. So just a 1 degree change can give rise to DRASTIC changes in weather patterns.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

What you don't realize is the climate is not a linear system. Its a non-linear system in that if one thing changes, it can spark chaos in other parts of the system. So just a 1 degree change can give rise to DRASTIC changes in weather patterns.

Then cities should be destroyed because they are known to be warmer than out in the country and black top pavement should be a no no. There is nothing that suggests rhat this is man made climate change as there has been more drastic climate change when man was nowhere near the same industrial wise.

 

[Blue Fury 10+ year member]

Then cities should be destroyed because they are known to be warmer than out in the country and black top pavement should be a no no. There is nothing that suggests rhat this is man made climate change as there has been more drastic climate change when man was nowhere near the same industrial wise.

I really hope youre being sarcastic. And if you dont think that this climate is at least slightly influenced by man then youre seriously misinformed. Yes for the very most part its a cycle that is about to start again, but you cant seriously believe that man hasnt effected the ozone and such

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

I really hope youre being sarcastic. And if you dont think that this climate is at least slightly influenced by man then youre seriously misinformed. Yes for the very most part its a cycle that is about to start again, but you cant seriously believe that man hasnt effected the ozone and such

Actually based on how this bill was legally fought it had nothing to do with science (this is over CO2 nothing more). The government didn't fight or even use "global warming" as a reason to be able to sell carbon emissions as they would have had a very very tough time making the point because they couldn't prove it. Over 3100 very very prominent scientists disagree with this man made global warming theory. Some say it is because they don't work for a government but also know that opinions of federally employed/financed scientists were compromised with the threat of taking away federal funding if scientists didn't agree. This bill is not just over gas, oil or electricity it goes into the home building sector which effects another 15-20% of the economy.

This bill helps prop up Fannie and Freddie and yet again funds poor people the ability to get loans for even more expensive housing because California building standards would be nationwide. This over steps State and Local government. If a house in Illinios is not up to California code the home owner pays to have it brought up to code before they can sell it.

If global warming experts know so much about how things work why do their reversed forecasts over any ten year period in history fall short on being even semi accurate? Why do they seem to want you to think solar activity is a constant?