i pulled a set out of a friends car, repaired them (falling apart), and put them back. A week later i fixed them again. Lots of CA glue, Solder and time down the drain and ive got to say these are the worlds WORST SUBS EVER. Id rather run Kraco by-nines then those things. They died one final death and i got him a different sub which was promptly stolen about a week later along with the amp i had just sold him //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/mad.gif.c18f003ab0ef8a0d9c27ca78d77a6392.gif