Using an Amp for Speakers

[Tombo 10+ year member]

Quick question: What are the advantages and disadvantages of using a 4 channel amp between the built-in amp in my deck and a pair of 6x9's and a pair of component speakers (mid's and tweeds)? Any certain wiring methods I should be aware of? (There will also be a second amp for a pair of subs, 2 channel. I'm assuming if a deck has 2 preamp outs, it can utilize 2 amps, correct?)

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[x5-452 10+ year member]

the advantages of using an amp to power ur speakers r:

1.-more power

2.-cleaner power

3.- wont distort sound (wich is what makes ur speakers blow)

the disadvantages r:

mmm... id have to say $$ is the only disadvantage, but if uve got the cash go for it

 

[Tombo 10+ year member]

What are the advantages compared to using a deck's built-in amp? (ie. 4x45 watts for a deck vs. an amp with 4 channels, 45 watts per channel.)

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

Originally posted by Tombo What are the advantages compared to using a deck's built-in amp? (ie. 4x45 watts for a deck vs. an amp with 4 channels, 45 watts per channel.)

A decks built in amp is going to only be like 22 watts or less RMS. That 45 watt / channel amp is probably the RMS rating, which is a bit more power. And that power, is clean power.

- Steve

 

[Tombo 10+ year member]

So you'd say, if money is avaliable, it's best to buy an amp to run the speakers off of, for cleaner power and better sound, than running the speakers right off the deck?

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

Originally posted by Tombo So you'd say, if money is avaliable, it's best to buy an amp to run the speakers off of, for cleaner power and better sound, than running the speakers right off the deck?

Correct.

- Steve

 

[Tombo 10+ year member]

Thank you Steve, I guess this means I'll be using a pair of amps, one for my speakers and one for my subs. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Another quick query... they type of speakers doesn't matter with the amp, correct? I'm planning to get a pair of Pioneer 3-way 6x9's, then a pair of Pioneer component speakers, not sure which size yet though. It's safe to connect all thoat to a 200 watt 4 channel amp, most likely another Pioneer, right?

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

Your right....the brand of speakers doesnt have to match the brand of the amp. 95% of the time they dont.

You know, if you get rid of those 6x9's completley...and spend that cash on a good component set, you wont need any rear speakers. The components up front would produce enough sound to fill a concert hall. Just a thought.

- Steve

 

[Tombo 10+ year member]

It would be something to consider, but the back of my Cav' wouldn't look the same without those speaker grills that seem to light up through my back window, when I hit the brake. (It's kinda neat. )

Also, I do know that brands do not have to match... but I hear good things about Pioneers. Unless, you know of any other combination that works well.

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[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

Pioneer is a very good brand. Not so much for speakers and amps though - I'm not saying that they are bad, just there is better.

For amps, look at...MTX / PPI / Zapco / Autotek / JBL / Tsunami / Crossfire / etc...look in the amps section for suggestions.

Speakers = Focal, Infinity, Diamond, Crystal, etc - look in the speakers section for suggestions.

- Steve

 

[Tombo 10+ year member]

Okay, now into the world of crossovers...

My definition: it's that thing that takes the sound signal, breaks it up into it's 3 distinct parts, and distributes it accordingly to different types of speakers, correct?

So, for component speakers... the "distribution block" that comes with the set, is that considered a cross over, splitting the sound into 3 parts and only using the 2 that will work with the mid and tweed? Does that mean the third is sent to te subs in my trunk?

It seems like I wouldn't even need a pair of 6x9's in the back after all, if this is how it works, right? Or maybe it would be best to use regular 4x6's in the front doors, instead of components... ??? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[triphop 10+ year member]

no no no my friend... forget those 4x6 or 6x9s u need a good set of 6.5 components. components come in mids, tweets and a crossover for splitin the signal for the mids and highs(tweets)

i dont really know or understand whats that 3rd signal ur talkin. but i guess its the sub signal... that doesnt come from the comps crossovers though. unless u buy a separate crossover.

i guess

hope it helps man

 

[excelonperu 10+ year member]

Yeah pioneer premier is good, and if your are new at car audio it shoul dbe pretty ok for getting started. Zapco and ARC are nice but pretty expensive.

Comps are the way to go but make sure you put them in kick panels, either you will have to make them, or pay for them. Check the Q-Logic ones.

There is no 3rd signal in the crossovers of the comps unless they are a 3way ones, but no frequency is for the sub, it has an independent RCA out put from the deck

 

[ss3079 5,000+ posts]

Originally posted by Jmac You haven't heard my Pioneer Premier amp, have you ? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Oh I've heard it lol....just tried to say that they werent as keen on amps like Zapco and Crossfire etc...dont get me wrong, they are nice amps //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

- Steve