i know the feeling it was 4yrs that i went without bass and i bought my se12's whenthe group buy was going on and i've been inlove with them sinceI couldn't get over the looks of the SE's. I hadn't gotten a new sub in over two years so I was drooling. It's bad that I spent more time staring at the subs then hanging out with the girl on our 1 year 6 month. I got yelled at for it too //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif