Trying to hold da black man down!

[bones22 5,000+ posts]

law says you don't have to open your door for the cops without a warrant. I'd say the police were wrong on this one.
Al Sharpton's a clown, he needs a hobby or something.

This country will forever have deep racial tension, oh well what's new?

i read article early this morning and like most its complete crap.

the man is lucky they asked him to open the door rather than them rushing in which they had right to do in this situtation. his refusal at first to show proof of who he was is reason to be arrested. afterall its the law that you must be able to prove who you are if asked with some sort of id. the police may have handled parts of it wrong but the man thinking he can scream "racisim" puts him at the front of the line for being wrong.

yes though sharpton is a tool.

you are right though racisim will never go when people use it as a crutch to get by in life.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Eh, two sides to every story, that's why I added allegedly. Cops are around to prosecute by the way, they bring prosecution upon criminals. Maybe you meant persecute.

No, they are there to enforce the laws promulgated by legislatures and other authorities authorized to do so by law. They don't prosecute...that is what lawyers do.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I am curious who pays for replacement of said door when the cops barge in looking for a burgler and it's just me there fapping in front of my laptop.

 

[thegreatestpenn 5,000+ posts]

I am curious who pays for replacement of said door when the cops barge in looking for a burgler and it's just me there fapping in front of my laptop.

the city does (which means the taxpayers). Someone below my apt had their door kicked in (and frame damaged to boot) and the landlord got on the horn with the city so they'd fix it. Cops get in big trouble if they do that without a warrant. Matter of fact when they did it to the guy under me, the cops came up, showed iD and told me to call the landlord and tell him what was about to happen.

 

[sue bee 10+ year member]

I live about 20 min from where this happened. I knew from the thread title that you were referring to this.

I could talk about how a leading African American scholar ultimately ended up being arrested for "breaking" into his own home. You have to keep all things in perspective, and I'm not going to pick a side, but just put yourself in his shoes. It's your own house. Hope that isn't too biased. Anyway, my real point is this, which will probably never be more appropriate:

 

[davesexplorer 10+ year member]

No, they are there to enforce the laws promulgated by legislatures and other authorities authorized to do so by law. They don't prosecute...that is what lawyers do.

So police prosection is a false statement? I guess when a police officer files charges he isn't bringing forth prosecution.

In the end I'm not going to argue semantics on a car audio forum, but it is nice to have an intelligent conversation on here for a change. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

So police prosection is a false statement? I guess when a police officer files charges he isn't bringing forth prosecution.
In the end I'm not going to argue semantics on a car audio forum, but it is nice to have an intelligent conversation on here for a change. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

The officer is filing charges as an agent of the state.

 

[MisterGrubbs 5,000+ posts]

Give it a mother****ing rest.

I am so ****ing sick and god **** tired of seeing this bullshit and all of these ignorant *** ****s, seriously. Get the **** over it. Slavery only exists in your minds people.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Give it a mother****ing rest.
I am so ****ing sick and god **** tired of seeing this bullshit and all of these ignorant *** ****s, seriously. Get the **** over it. Slavery only exists in your minds people.

I feel the same way when people talk about the Holacaust.

 

[davesexplorer 10+ year member]

The officer is filing charges as an agent of the state.

So filing charges, issuing citations isn't considered prosecution... interesting.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

So filing charges, issuing citations isn't considered prosecution... interesting.

the institution and carrying on of a criminal action involving the process of seeking formal charges against a person and pursuing those charges to final judgment

An officer only does the first part, not the second. The DA may use the officer's testimony as evidence, but the officer does not pursue until final judgement. You need both parts.

 

[sue bee 10+ year member]

So police prosection is a false statement? I guess when a police officer files charges he isn't bringing forth prosecution.
In the end I'm not going to argue semantics on a car audio forum, but it is nice to have an intelligent conversation on here for a change. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

He's bringing forth (insert any number of words).

Can you say that there is one, sole purveyor of prosecution? I think it just depends on the arena you're referring to. I guess that's a draw for you guys. Might even give it to you, Dave, because Flip was clearly trying to sharpshoot you and failed. It's actually attorneys that do the prosecuting, lawyers are part of the defense, but I get where you're going.

 

[davesexplorer 10+ year member]

An officer only does the first part, not the second. The DA may use the officer's testimony as evidence, but the officer does not pursue until final judgement. You need both parts.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prosecute

Well we just wont agree, which is fine. Have a good'n. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wave.gif.002382ce7d7c19757ab945cc69819de1.gif

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prosecute
Well we just wont agree, which is fine. Have a good'n. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wave.gif.002382ce7d7c19757ab945cc69819de1.gif

I used a legal dictionary.

I only agree that you are wrong.

 

[I_no_mad 10+ year member]

that's what the law says, I didn't say the laws in America are JUST, but they are the law. we've all seen movies where the police ring the doorbell while the killer/burglar has the victims tied up/gagged or are threatening them not to scream or they'll kill them. Its the law, if the law were to be changed for "suspicious behavior" there would be too much room for injustice by the police (which does happen, lets not be naive to think everyone in jail is guilty).

So you're basing your legislative knowledge on movies...

Tard.