06 model orion 1200d, PG xenon x600.1, both good amps, the pg birthsheeted at 879 and the orion is slightly louder at 1ohm I'd say on ear. I think it drew quite a bit less power to do it because of the xeload the PG has... both are good, I like the orion as it's strappable. but there hard to get deals on... I want another one but can't get one cheap so I may get rid of it for something else //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif but if I do it'll be something larger lol. I sold my 06 5000d orion and autotek mm4000.1ds so I need big amps again, my subs are starving LOL