Those crazy Muslims...

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

Do you honestly believe in today's society that religion has nothing to do with terrorism? Are you living in a cave? The reason these terrorists exist is because of religion.

Religion is a vehicle for terrorism to grow and thrive. Islam is no worse in this respect than any other.

I'm going to claim to be a christian and start preaching christianity, and then kill my wife so that everyone see's what an awful religion it truly is.

 

[stl_style 10+ year member]

Have you ever heard how much money Bin Laden is worth? He is the heir of hundreds of millions of dollars.
How do you explain the wave of doctors and engineers that participated in the London bombings?

More than half of the 9/11 hijackers were college educated.

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a80s90smiddleclass

http://www.atps.com/wakeupamerica.htm

Terrorism in our country^^^^^^^^^^^

I can't explain the actions of those people, but I can tell you this is not Islam,.

Can you explain the KKK killing others in the name of "christ" because of ther human superiority?

It's rediculious to try and rationalize sick behavior.

Those people were involve in some type of conspiracy that was driven by the gain of wealth and resources, not religion.

There are people who think completely contrary to the bible and call themselves christians and support their claims by ignorant methodology and demonstrate their belief with sin!!!! (EVERY RELIGION)

I tend to judge by actions not by words.

The fear of God alone should protect a man from killing his wife!!!

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

When you think of Christianity do you think of homosexual **********?

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

This is ridiculous, he just wanted head from his wife //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[stl_style 10+ year member]

Have you ever heard how much money Bin Laden is worth? He is the heir of hundreds of millions of dollars.
How do you explain the wave of doctors and engineers that participated in the London bombings?

More than half of the 9/11 hijackers were college educated.

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a80s90smiddleclass

It also could have very well been religion! THere are crazy people doing all types of evil shit and justify it with religion.

Doesn't make it right!!!

 

[stl_style 10+ year member]

When you think of Christianity do you think of homosexual **********?

Prapaganda! You have been conditioned to associate ISLAM with terrorism! Lol your comment proves my point!

 

[stl_style 10+ year member]

Most other contries also condition their people to think a certain way about americans, good or bad. Especially other countries, I seen it for myself how the Iraqi government filtered what their citizens seen in the media, even their thoughts and what they could say and do. We "Americans" are in the dark, cosidering the war we are, honestly, fighting!

 

[stl_style 10+ year member]

When you think of Christianity do you think of homosexual **********?

No, I think of confused, hypocritical, cult like organization, that has no clue of truth and what they believe as christians. Have you ever met a Christian who has memorized the BIBle from front to back, EVER!!! or even atempted?

 

[mattf 5,000+ posts]

Religion is a vehicle for terrorism to grow and thrive. Islam is no worse in this respect than any other.

Yep and he said religion was not a top factor in terrorism. I said it was and it is. I'd also say that Islam is worse than others. I haven't heard too many stories of Christians flying planes into buildings and killing thousands of innocent people for no other reason than they follow a different religion than them.

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

Prapaganda! You have been conditioned to associate ISLAM with terrorism! Lol your comment proves my point!

lol I am Islamic //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

A growing minority of young Muslims are inspired by political Islam and feel they have less in common with non-Muslims than their parents do, a survey reveals today. The poll, carried out for the conservative-leaning Policy Exchange thinktank, found support for Sharia law, Islamic schools and wearing the veil in public is significantly stronger among young Muslims than their parents.
In the survey of 1,003 Muslims by the polling company Populus through internet and telephone questionnaires, nearly 60% said they would prefer to live under British law, while 37% of 16 to 24-year-olds said they would prefer sharia law, against 17% of those over 55. Eighty-six per cent said their religion was the most important thing in their lives.

Nearly a third of 16 to 24-year-olds believed that those converting to another religion should be executed, while less than a fifth of those over 55 believed the same. The survey claimed that British authorities and some Muslim groups have exaggerated the problem of Islamophobia and fuelled a sense of victimhood among some Muslims: 84% said they believed they had been well treated in British society, though only 28% thought the authorities had gone over the top in trying not to offend Muslims. Munira Mirza, a doctoral student at Kent University who wrote the report, said: "The government should engage with Muslims as citizens, not through their religious identity."

Congrats, evidence showing that what we as americans have done to the muslim world is creating more and more hatred towards us and thus more and more people susceptible to accepting terroristic mind states and attitudes. Believe it or not, it's not easy to hear every day that what I believe in is essentially terrorism. If you keep telling someone they are a murderer, one day they likely will be.

Why is ******* bombing any worse than what the US army has done to iraq? Because we justify it by calling it war and claiming that we are fighting for freedom? Because we brain wash our people into believing it is right? Guess what, US army recruiters and terrorist recruiters work on the same principles. You just happen to think that your side is right because you were born on it.

 

[stl_style 10+ year member]

Yep and he said religion was not a top factor in terrorism. I said it was and it is. I'd also say that Islam is worse than others. I haven't heard too many stories of Christians flying planes into buildings and killing thousands of innocent people for no other reason than they follow a different religion than them.

lol, you honestly belive that was done because americans follow a different relition than ISLAM?

Saudia Arabia, Pakistan, IRAQ and a hand full of other "Muslim" countries have been well developed when the "True" Americans was running around ***** on this land we call America.

Americans, as we know them today, have been extremely volunerable to terrorist attacks in the past, WW!, French and Indian war, WWII, Vietnam, and a host of other campaigns.

If muslims truly wanted to attack america because they are Christians, why wait till now lollllllllllllll

These countries have been developed for a thousand years.

They watch our baby country grow, truth be told we are in plenty of debt to arab nations.

WHich, is a reason for war and terrorism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rashaddd 5,000+ posts]

Yep and he said religion was not a top factor in terrorism. I said it was and it is. I'd also say that Islam is worse than others. I haven't heard too many stories of Christians flying planes into buildings and killing thousands of innocent people for no other reason than they follow a different religion than them.

Your logic is terribly flawed.

I've heard of thousands of 'christians' and people who are representing a christian background going into other countries and killing thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people for no reason other than they follow a different religion than them. It's called hitler and the nazi's, it's called the KKK, it's called America in this 'iraqi war'. Yet somehow none of this seems to shake your image of christianity. Why? Because you know better. You know that terrible acts like these aren't what christianity is about. If you were a Muslim, you'd feel the same way when you hear about 'islamic' terrorists.

 

[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

It also could have very well been religion! THere are crazy people doing all types of evil shit and justify it with religion.
Doesn't make it right!!!

So you do agree that what people believe about the world does affect their actions.

I agree that there are many different reasons why people may commit certain crimes, but we have to acknowledge that religion is one of the reasons. How much suffering in the world might be alleviated if we could eliminate these causes for violence? Over the last 50 years our society has greatly extinguished racism so that there aren't regular lynchings in the south anymore; so we have effectively eliminated that particular cause for violence (this is not to say racism isnt still a problem, but it certainly isnt as bad as it was).

Yep and he said religion was not a top factor in terrorism. I said it was and it is. I'd also say that Islam is worse than others. I haven't heard too many stories of Christians flying planes into buildings and killing thousands of innocent people for no other reason than they follow a different religion than them.

As far as the actual doctrines go, the bible is worse than the quran. Christianity in western society has just been beaten back so much by secular progress (enlightenment, scientific discoveries, democratic values, etc)

 

[newusername 10+ year member]

It's an ideological battle, where educated Western Christians battle educated Middle Eastern Muslims. The battle is political, and relies on convincing the uneducated public that the other party is evil. Once you've accomplished that, you can do whatever you want or need to them. Both sides think they're right, and they're doing the same thing in different ways.

It's really comical, actually. Joe McCarthy would be proud.

 

[perfecxionX 10+ year member]

lol I am Islamic //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif


Congrats, evidence showing that what we as americans have done to the muslim world is creating more and more hatred towards us and thus more and more people susceptible to accepting terroristic mind states and attitudes. Believe it or not, it's not easy to hear every day that what I believe in is essentially terrorism. If you keep telling someone they are a murderer, one day they likely will be.

I didnt tell anyone they were a murderer. I specifically denounced stereotyping people. All i am arguing is that it matters what people believe. Tibetan Buddhists have certainly suffered an occupation by the Chinese far worse than the Palestinians have by the Israelis, and yet where are the Buddhist ******* bombers? The jihad and martyrdom preached in Islam gives oppressed pissed off Muslims all the reasons they need to kill people in the name of God.

Why is ******* bombing any worse than what the US army has done to iraq? Because we justify it by calling it war and claiming that we are fighting for freedom? Because we brain wash our people into believing it is right? Guess what, US army recruiters and terrorist recruiters work on the same principles. You just happen to think that your side is right because you were born on it.

I think terrorism (not always ******* bombing) is worse, because it is the intentional targeting of civilians. Imagine a perfect weapon that allows you to get just your target, with no "collateral damage." How might the United States have used such a weapon in Iraq? Now imagine how Osama bin Laden or Hamas would use it. If you cant recognize a moral distinction there, then there is something wrong with you. I can certainly agree that as a matter of foreign policy, the United States has much to be sorry for but that does NOT excuse blowing yourself up in a crowd of civilians.