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[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

lol...outbid

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

Prowler, you mention integrity...... but is there Honor in using the snipe-sites?? I would argue there isn't!!
...but for my purposes, I only have 1 bid and I want 2, so it looks like there are people interested.

x2, if you are using a sniper site you must be for a reason. To cheat the system. Since when was cheating honorable ?

 

[Worlddre 5,000+ posts]

i

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&item=260005937157&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

I really really wanted to buy that, as it was one of my dream decks back in the day. But after doing some research I just don't think it's up to date enough //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

Prowler = typing a really long reply....

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&item=260005937157&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
I really really wanted to buy that, as it was one of my dream decks back in the day. But after doing some research I just don't think it's up to date enough //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

They are definetly old. Pioneer hasnt used the click button's for a while now

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

i //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/blush.gif.99bc659ee2012b7d826165e26fb5eebe.gif

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, Thems were $$ back in the day, and you have to have the remote to access some functions. Very clean though.

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

The remote is fugly and big

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

Prowler, you mention integrity...... but is there Honor in using the snipe-sites?? I would argue there isn't!!

I would argue that honor plays no part in the process one way or the other. Any bid placed, regardless of the time left on the auction clock, is a valid bid according to eBay. eBay is not a traditional Going, Going, Gone!-type of auction like what you would find at a live auction house.Every bidder interested in any given item is provided with the exact same information. Said information includes the exact moment that the listing will come to a screeching, grinding halt. Armed with that information they have the same opportunity as anyone else to toss their bid in and see how it goes. I find no dishonor in placing my bid in such a manner that other bidders, whether actively bidding or merely watching, do not have the opportunity to place a counterbid in an attempt at besting me. If they were willing to bid higher then they had plenty of opportunity to do so throughout the course of the listing whether that be a 1 day, 3 day, 5 day, 7 day, or 10 day listing. Where is the dishonor in my choosing to utilize the final 5 seconds of that several day-long timeframe?

Furthermore ~ those who regularly practice sniping 99 times out of 100 end up being THE fastest payers once a listing is won. Sellers love that.

Having said all of that ~ I do not see much difference in my using a service to place a bid for me if I cannot be in front of a computer with a live 'Net connection at the endtime for a listing. Someone who places their bid in the first moments of a listing is allowing eBay to continually bid for them until the maximum amount of their proxy is bested (technically a 3rd party doing that job rather than the user themselves) so how is using eSnipe really that different?

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

Dre, post pics of you in your shirt or else !

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

I would argue that honor plays no part in the process one way or the other. Any bid placed, regardless of the time left on the auction clock, is a valid bid according to eBay. eBay is not a traditional Going, Going, Gone!-type of auction like what you would find at a live auction house.Every bidder interested in any given item is provided with the exact same information. Said information includes the exact moment that the listing will come to a screeching, grinding halt. Armed with that information they have the same opportunity as anyone else to toss their bid in and see how it goes. I find no dishonor in placing my bid in such a manner that other bidders, whether actively bidding or merely watching, do not have the opportunity to place a counterbid in an attempt at besting me. If they were willing to bid higher then they had plenty of opportunity to do so throughout the course of the listing whether that be a 1 day, 3 day, 5 day, 7 day, or 10 day listing. Where is the dishonor in my choosing to utilize the final 5 seconds of that several day-long timeframe?

Furthermore ~ those who regularly practice sniping 99 times out of 100 end up being THE fastest payers once a listing is won. Sellers love that.

Having said all of that ~ I do not see much difference in my using a service to place a bid for me if I cannot be in front of a computer with a live 'Net connection at the endtime for a listing. Someone who places their bid in the first moments of a listing is allowing eBay to continually bid for them until the maximum amount of their proxy is bested (technically a 3rd party doing that job rather than the user themselves) so how is using eSnipe really that different?

Ebay can do that for you.

And using a 3rd party software is an un fair advantage to me. Ive always sniped myself. Im to legit to quit !

 

[Worlddre 5,000+ posts]

im going to work

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

And lastly I do not always use a 3rd party service to bid for me. Only when i cannot be in front of a computer to do it myself.

Sniping is no guarantee of a win, by the way.....it is just a pretty safe bet that no one will place a counterbid before the listing ends.

/story.

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

I would argue that honor plays no part in the process one way or the other. Any bid placed, regardless of the time left on the auction clock, is a valid bid according to eBay. eBay is not a traditional Going, Going, Gone!-type of auction like what you would find at a live auction house.Every bidder interested in any given item is provided with the exact same information. Said information includes the exact moment that the listing will come to a screeching, grinding halt. Armed with that information they have the same opportunity as anyone else to toss their bid in and see how it goes. I find no dishonor in placing my bid in such a manner that other bidders, whether actively bidding or merely watching, do not have the opportunity to place a counterbid in an attempt at besting me. If they were willing to bid higher then they had plenty of opportunity to do so throughout the course of the listing whether that be a 1 day, 3 day, 5 day, 7 day, or 10 day listing. Where is the dishonor in my choosing to utilize the final 5 seconds of that several day-long timeframe?

Furthermore ~ those who regularly practice sniping 99 times out of 100 end up being THE fastest payers once a listing is won. Sellers love that.

Having said all of that ~ I do not see much difference in my using a service to place a bid for me if I cannot be in front of a computer with a live 'Net connection at the endtime for a listing. Someone who places their bid in the first moments of a listing is allowing eBay to continually bid for them until the maximum amount of their proxy is bested (technically a 3rd party doing that job rather than the user themselves) so how is using eSnipe really that different?

I see your side, but personally my sniping should only be as good as my internet connection. If I can't be there for the end, I'll put in my max $ and leave it at that!