The State of the Union Address

[Beerdrnkr 5,000+ posts]

Better than Bush? He has ALREADY spent 4x more money than Bush, and the economy has only gotten worse and worse. If the crazy spending actually pulled us out of this slump, thats one thing, but it has just put us further into it.
How is that better?

You're an idiot and you should get your facts straight. A few stimulis packages were already in affect before Obama won the election and do you actually think he's spent more money than the war has cost us over all these years?

 

[Beerdrnkr 5,000+ posts]

I do wish the democrats and republicans could get their shit together and agree on something to get things finally done though.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I do wish the democrats and republicans could get their shit together and agree on something to get things finally done though.

They have absolutely no desire to get anything done. Politics as usual while putting a new face on their games, that is what they want to accomplish.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

You're an idiot and you should get your facts straight. A few stimulis packages were already in affect before Obama won the election and do you actually think he's spent more money than the war has cost us over all these years?

When the stimulus bill was passed, the war in Iraq had cost $700bln cumulatively. The stimulus bill was $787bln //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[ahole-ic]

When the stimulus bill was passed, the war in Iraq had cost $700bln cumulatively. The stimulus bill was $787bln //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

LOL you beat me to it. It's funny how uninformed you have to be to vote democrat.

 

[themgators511 10+ year member]

They have absolutely no desire to get anything done. Politics as usual while putting a new face on their games, that is what they want to accomplish.

Obama has the desire to get stuff done but all the wrong things.....For instance one of the first laws obama changed from the bush administration within one month of being elected president he changed a law that if an abortion had failed and the baby was born alive you had to do anything to keep that baby alive obama changed it to were if a baby was born alive through a failed abortion you dont have to do anything you can just let the baby die. Since obama has done this they have found tons of baby bodies in dumpsters behind abortion facilities that they proved were born alive but killed them after they were born........Anyways im not going to sit here and type about how wrong abortion is witch I think it is but it proves that he has the motive to get things done but tell me why is it so important to change this one law within one month of being elected when there is a ton of other things that are more important.

 

[jmanpc 5,000+ posts]

My favorite was how harshly Democrats blasted Bush for the Patriot Act. Then, one of the first things Barry did was renew it. lawls.

 

[Beerdrnkr 5,000+ posts]

When the stimulus bill was passed, the war in Iraq had cost $700bln cumulatively. The stimulus bill was $787bln //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Well the war is still costing us more money right? What about the other money Bush spent? I didn't say only the war costs more than what Obama spent.

LOL you beat me to it. It's funny how uninformed you have to be to vote democrat.

The funny thing is how much people THINK they know. How many people here have read any of the bills that have passed or are in the process of maybe being passed? Yeah, that's what I thought. People only go off of what they hear on t.v or what they read on the internet (which both sources are usually biased in one way or another). I didn't vote because IMO EVERYBODY in the grand scheme of things is looking out for themselves.

 

[Beerdrnkr 5,000+ posts]

However, I do hope that Obama succeeds just like I've wanted every other president to succeed.

 

[Beerdrnkr 5,000+ posts]

Obama has the desire to get stuff done but all the wrong things.....For instance one of the first laws obama changed from the bush administration within one month of being elected president he changed a law that if an abortion had failed and the baby was born alive you had to do anything to keep that baby alive obama changed it to were if a baby was born alive through a failed abortion you dont have to do anything you can just let the baby die. Since obama has done this they have found tons of baby bodies in dumpsters behind abortion facilities that they proved were born alive but killed them after they were born........Anyways im not going to sit here and type about how wrong abortion is witch I think it is but it proves that he has the motive to get things done but tell me why is it so important to change this one law within one month of being elected when there is a ton of other things that are more important.

This might sound harsh and I hope I don't get too attacked on this but the population is growing way out of hand as it is. We're burning through this planet like it's going out of style and if some idiot teenager wants to get an abortion because they know they can't afford it or the dad doesn't want to be a part of it, than maybe it's for the best. They really should make it super easy to get the day after pill and hopefully teenagers don't find it as a safe way to have unprotected *** without getting pregnant. Too many sides to the story is what I hate about politics, someone's ALWAYS going to be mad, they just have to think about the greater good.

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

Didn't watch it...he's an idiot...as are the rest of them in that chamber sitting, standing and clapping. Get rid of them all and start over, that's my mantra.

 

[themgators511 10+ year member]

This might sound harsh and I hope I don't get too attacked on this but the population is growing way out of hand as it is. We're burning through this planet like it's going out of style and if some idiot teenager wants to get an abortion because they know they can't afford it or the dad doesn't want to be a part of it, than maybe it's for the best. They really should make it super easy to get the day after pill and hopefully teenagers don't find it as a safe way to have unprotected *** without getting pregnant. Too many sides to the story is what I hate about politics, someone's ALWAYS going to be mad, they just have to think about the greater good.

Well you are right about the population growing rapidly and too fast but I believe there are other ways to stop the rapid growth than to murder an inocent child.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Obama has the desire to get stuff done but all the wrong things.....For instance one of the first laws obama changed from the bush administration within one month of being elected president he changed a law that if an abortion had failed and the baby was born alive you had to do anything to keep that baby alive obama changed it to were if a baby was born alive through a failed abortion you dont have to do anything you can just let the baby die. Since obama has done this they have found tons of baby bodies in dumpsters behind abortion facilities that they proved were born alive but killed them after they were born........Anyways im not going to sit here and type about how wrong abortion is witch I think it is but it proves that he has the motive to get things done but tell me why is it so important to change this one law within one month of being elected when there is a ton of other things that are more important.

You only seemed to read the part of my reply you bolded. Politicians, Obama included, have no real desire to make substantial changes. Abortion rights? that's one of the battle grounds politicians like to play out before our eyes to pretend anything significant is going on. How about changing the system so those children are born into a world that wants them, instead of the attitude of we already have a population out-growing itself? How about restructuring the political system so they dont have virtually 100% bills passed along political lines? How about setting up a government whose desire is to create the best system possible, rather than one that appears to favor their own political party? How about changing the system so the guy with the best policies wins the election, rather than the guy with the most financial backing or the fewest *** scandals? How about a government that is honest about an energy crisis and what it costs in American lives, not just tax dollars? How about changing the government to one which wouldn't even consider being influenced by outside forces brought about by private industry, rather than one that reverses a law that will now allow for unlimited influence from them in the form of the almighty dollar? How about a government who doesn;t sway influence by using extremist arguments to scare the population into seeing things their way? Oh yes, Obama changed an abortion law right away, clearly he wants deep rooted change for our system... pardon me if I dont jump on the bandwagon.

 

[themgators511 10+ year member]

You only seemed to read the part of my reply you bolded. Politicians, Obama included, have no real desire to make substantial changes. Abortion rights? that's one of the battle grounds politicians like to play out before our eyes to pretend anything significant is going on. How about changing the system so those children are born into a world that wants them, instead of the attitude of we already have a population out-growing itself? How about restructuring the political system so they dont have virtually 100% bills passed along political lines? How about setting up a government whose desire is to create the best system possible, rather than one that appears to favor their own political party? How about changing the system so the guy with the best policies wins the election, rather than the guy with the most financial backing or the fewest *** scandals? How about a government that is honest about an energy crisis and what it costs in American lives, not just tax dollars? How about changing the government to one which wouldn't even consider being influenced by outside forces brought about by private industry, rather than one that reverses a law that will now allow for unlimited influence from them in the form of the almighty dollar? How about a government who doesn;t sway influence by using extremist arguments to scare the population into seeing things their way? Oh yes, Obama changed an abortion law right away, clearly he wants deep rooted change for our system... pardon me if I dont jump on the bandwagon.

I agree

 

[Beerdrnkr 5,000+ posts]

You only seemed to read the part of my reply you bolded. Politicians, Obama included, have no real desire to make substantial changes. Abortion rights? that's one of the battle grounds politicians like to play out before our eyes to pretend anything significant is going on. How about changing the system so those children are born into a world that wants them, instead of the attitude of we already have a population out-growing itself? How about restructuring the political system so they dont have virtually 100% bills passed along political lines? How about setting up a government whose desire is to create the best system possible, rather than one that appears to favor their own political party? How about changing the system so the guy with the best policies wins the election, rather than the guy with the most financial backing or the fewest *** scandals? How about a government that is honest about an energy crisis and what it costs in American lives, not just tax dollars? How about changing the government to one which wouldn't even consider being influenced by outside forces brought about by private industry, rather than one that reverses a law that will now allow for unlimited influence from them in the form of the almighty dollar? How about a government who doesn;t sway influence by using extremist arguments to scare the population into seeing things their way? Oh yes, Obama changed an abortion law right away, clearly he wants deep rooted change for our system... pardon me if I dont jump on the bandwagon.

Well maybe you should get started on that....