The Illuminati

[Renzone3 10+ year member]

Hardly. There's a reason they're called conspiracy theories, not conspiracy facts. You can't go around claiming to know the truth when there's no real evidence. I'd still like to hear why you think the Illuminati is real, or what you even think the Illuminati is.

There's no real evidence to why there is a god/allah/buddah neither but people still believe in religion it's part of modern society.The illuminati to me is a secret society controlling the world.In other words a Freemason.They are worldwide and little is known about them.

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

There's no real evidence to why there is a god/allah/buddah neither but people still believe in religion it's part of modern society.The illuminati to me is a secret society controlling the world.In other words a Freemason.They are worldwide and little is known about them.

Seriously, go meet a Mason. They're not at all what you think they are. I've met a Grand Master before, and my uncle was a Mason. They're nothing special. They don't worship the devil, they don't have any power, and they certainly don't control what happens around the world. The only reason you think they control the world is because someone preyed on your imagination. They're a secret society, but if you walk into a lodge, you'll see that it's no longer a secret. They just have boring meetings about boring things, usually trying to raise money for good causes.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

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Stuff on Rense site is for entertainment purposes only. That is NOT a good source of credible and verifiable information.

Seriously, go meet a Mason. They're not at all what you think they are. I've met a Grand Master before, and my uncle was a Mason. They're nothing special. They don't worship the devil, they don't have any power, and they certainly don't control what happens around the world. The only reason you think they control the world is because someone preyed on your imagination. They're a secret society, but if you walk into a lodge, you'll see that it's no longer a secret. They just have boring meetings about boring things, usually trying to raise money for good causes.

You should read about Albert Pike. He paints a different picture about the true "secret" of freemasonry. The fact that 99.99% of the membership is completely in the dark about that is not relevent.

It is verifiable that there is a very small crew of people who are in positions of power and have the means to manipulate world events and society. They belong to the same clubs, generally go to the same universities, and often meet together in secret. Flipped around if there were a couple hundred people who did have to power to manipulate or control societal and human evolution it would be irrisponsible for them to not attempt to do so.

I'm on the fence as to the relevence of freemasonry, but I'm confident the hidden secret is luciferian. I'm very convinced that Madonna being relevent now or ever is evidence of something sinister. Seriously have you guys ever listened to a Madonna song?

 

[Renzone3 10+ year member]

I've meet a mason actually.He wouldnt tell me much but he told me that there symbol with the "G" in it and the protractor(i think thats what is called),but pretty much building tools stood for "The Grand Architect" which meant building a "New World Order".He had a Freemason ring on and necklace and had symbols of freemasonry on his car.To me he was legitimate but idk.And who said they worshipped the devil?

 

[samaxe 10+ year member]

**** or GTFO.

 

[brooklynjoy2008 10+ year member]

There are so many ignorant people who believe this ssshhit they, can not see what is happening right in front of their eyes. The people who pull the strings, have put themselves in a position where they rule. Think of it as a monopoly game where they own the railways, electric, water, and all the prime real estate. They learned from Hitler that you cant take the world by force. There is to much resistance! But if you own most of the resources in the world you are in a great position. So if u want to talk about who really runs ssshhhhit please at least know what the fffkkk u are talking about.

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

And who said they worshipped the devil?

Sorry, I assumed you researched further into the music industry than just the names of supposed Illuminati members. The main theme behind the belief that the Illuminati and music industry are related is that they worship the devil, and are trying to get rid of Christianity.

You should read about Albert Pike. He paints a different picture about the true "secret" of freemasonry. The fact that 99.99% of the membership is completely in the dark about that is not relevent.
It is verifiable that there is a very small crew of people who are in positions of power and have the means to manipulate world events and society. They belong to the same clubs, generally go to the same universities, and often meet together in secret. Flipped around if there were a couple hundred people who did have to power to manipulate or control societal and human evolution it would be irrisponsible for them to not attempt to do so.

I'm on the fence as to the relevence of freemasonry, but I'm confident the hidden secret is luciferian. I'm very convinced that Madonna being relevent now or ever is evidence of something sinister. Seriously have you guys ever listened to a Madonna song?

Which song, specifically? They're very catchy(joke).

"When you call my name, it's like a little prayer. I'm down on my knees, I want to take you there."

OP, my goal in the dome is to troll, for the most part. While I do not believe in a Christian God, I think it's possible that there is some kind of cosmic force propelling all sentient beings forward. I don't want to put a name to it or try to explain it like modern religions do because I don't think it's fair to limit our view of what we can't comprehend. Do you honestly think that a power judges our actions and punishes us if we do the wrong thing? Do you think every person who believes in a higher power that is not Christian will be sent to hell because they didn't believe in the right God?

 

[Renzone3 10+ year member]

Sorry, I assumed you researched further into the music industry than just the names of supposed Illuminati members. The main theme behind the belief that the Illuminati and music industry are related is that they worship the devil, and are trying to get rid of Christianity.


Which song, specifically? They're very catchy(joke).

"When you call my name, it's like a little prayer. I'm down on my knees, I want to take you there."

OP, my goal in the dome is to troll, for the most part. While I do not believe in a Christian God, I think it's possible that there is some kind of cosmic force propelling all sentient beings forward. I don't want to put a name to it or try to explain it like modern religions do because I don't think it's fair to limit our view of what we can't comprehend. Do you honestly think that a power judges our actions and punishes us if we do the wrong thing? Do you think every person who believes in a higher power that is not Christian will be sent to hell because they didn't believe in the right God?

By all means I'm very religious it's not my fault I grew up with a religious family.As far as your last statement only god could judge whether you should dwell in hell.But that's my belief but who knows what the world is like in the afterlife there may be a heaven and hell there may not be,but it's your decision whether or not you plan to live a life of righteousness.By all means Im not holy i smoke weed and sin all day long but I repent on my actions,because we are all natural sinners even the holiest of the holiest mess up and sin it's just human nature.

 

[Renzone3 10+ year member]

By all means I'm very religious it's not my fault I grew up with a religious family.As far as your last statement only god could judge whether you should dwell in hell.But that's my belief but who knows what the world is like in the afterlife there may be a heaven and hell there may not be,but it's your decision whether or not you plan to live a life of righteousness.By all means Im not holy i smoke weed and sin all day long but I repent on my actions,because we are all natural sinners even the holiest of the holiest mess up and sin it's just human nature.

You don't have to be Christian to believe in god just to clarify.Theres other religions.

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

You don't have to be Christian to believe in god just to clarify.Theres other religions.

John 14:6, “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

 

[brooklynjoy2008 10+ year member]

You don't have to be Christian to believe in god just to clarify.Theres other religions.

Just so you know, I am not ignorant enough to say all but most all organized religions frown upon blasphamy. According to text only one is right. I hope I am!

 

[Emvaz 10+ year member]

I see a lot of finger pointing and talk on here about conspiracy but no evidence is presented, so what is there to debate? Without any facts there is no reference for truth.

So let me present some, just for kicks //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.pdf

http://www.darksideofgravity.com/marseille_gb.pdf

For those without enough time to read, allow me to paraphrase: There is scientific evidence of highly advanced nanothermitic material, both detonated, as well as undetonated, spread throughout the dust of the WTC collapse. Lets not forget the fact that it is HIGHLY unlikely (impossible?) for three high-rises to be struck asymmetrically and all experience symmetrical collapses through the path of greatest resistance (straight down through the supports) at virtual free-fall speed without the use of explosives. Let us also not forget the hundred or so eyewitness testimonies as well as video footage of sounds of massive explosions coming from the direction of building 7 before it collapsed.

There you go, some debate fodder for thought.

And here is some more to wrap your brain around:

Hollywood Gumshoe: Gallo's Egg

HIV & AIDS - VirusMyth HomePage

Fear of the Invisible, by Janine Roberts

lest we not forget the obligatory youtube vids:

House of Numbers - YouTube


To paraphrase: HIV doesn't cause AIDS, the heads of the pharmaceutical industry know this, and actively work to cover up this fact to the tune of billions of dollars of misdirected taxpayer dollars each year. In fact, the drugs prescribed to HIV patients have the same side effects as AIDS is said to have, so it is impossible to distinguish which symptoms came from what cause. It it likely that many cases of AIDS (that is to say full-blown immune deficiency, which can be caused by thousands of things or combinations of things) are caused by the medications themselves. Essentially its the biggest racket since the Federal Reserve. For scientific reference, look into the dozens of papers on this topic by Dr. Peter Duesberg, the world's leading expert on retroviruses.

Whether there is a ruling class of people called "The Illuminati" hiding behind the scenes and pulling the strings of governments, NGOs and International organizations is anyone's guess. In light of the above facts and the blatant, coordinated media coverup, it becomes self-evident to most people that something is fishy.

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

Just so you know, I am not ignorant enough to say all but most all organized religions frown upon blasphamy. According to text only one is right. I hope I am!

True that.

John 11:25, “Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live.”

 

John 6:40, “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Mark 1:15, “And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”

Acts 26:18, “To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.”

Romans 10:13, “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” (Lord as in Jesus Christ)

 

1st Corinthians 3:11, "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.”

 

Galatians 3:26, “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.”

 

According to the Bible, there's only one God, and to go to heaven, you must believe in Jesus Christ as the son of said God. In other words, salvation comes from one man, Jesus Christ.

...Amen.

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

I see a lot of finger pointing and talk on here about conspiracy but no evidence is presented, so what is there to debate? Without any facts there is no reference for truth.
So let me present some, just for kicks //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.pdf

http://www.darksideofgravity.com/marseille_gb.pdf

For those without enough time to read, allow me to paraphrase: There is scientific evidence of highly advanced nanothermitic material, both detonated, as well as undetonated, spread throughout the dust of the WTC collapse. Lets not forget the fact that it is HIGHLY unlikely (impossible?) for three high-rises to be struck asymmetrically and all experience symmetrical collapses through the path of greatest resistance (straight down through the supports) at virtual free-fall speed without the use of explosives. Let us also not forget the hundred or so eyewitness testimonies as well as video footage of sounds of massive explosions coming from the direction of building 7 before it collapsed.

There you go, some debate fodder for thought.

No need for an argument by me. I haven't thought 9/11 was done by terrorists for a while now. Nice to see some actual information for people to read, though!

And here is some more to wrap your brain around:
Hollywood Gumshoe: Gallo's Egg

HIV & AIDS - VirusMyth HomePage

Fear of the Invisible, by Janine Roberts

lest we not forget the obligatory youtube vids:

House of Numbers - YouTube

Again, real evidence for things happening. I have never looked into the HIV/AIDS connection, but it looks like I don't have to. I think the reason for this lie is the same reason for the "terrorists did 9/11" lie, and I don't think it has to do with a small group of people that are ruling the world. I just think it revolves around money. Governments in a capitalistic society need money to have control, and I don't think for one second that they wouldn't lie to get more resources or finances.
I think it all has to do with money, as that's what our society is based upon.

 

[THATpurpleKUSH 5,000+ posts]

You can't have an Illuminati discussion without including the Rothschild family and the central banking conspiracies. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Take a look at this article. It seems legit, I read it a few years ago. I haven't bothered to check the sources, but they are listed at the bottom and seem legit. I don't believe every word, but it all seems to line up and be plausible. The 9-11 info seems very very plausible, especially if you know details behind about the Iran-Contra affair, the Enron scandal and many of the other scandals committed by GW Bush's crooked cronies.

I'm not saying every word is true or Jews are bad, but the focus is on one single family's journey through many generations- Astor; Bundy; Collins; duPont; Freeman; Kennedy; Morgan; Oppenheimer; Rockefeller; Sassoon; Schiff; Taft; and Van Duyn etc...

Disclaimer from the article:
...Please, therefore, do not automatically assume someone you see with the name Rothschild or any of the names listed above are part of the Rothschild criminal network. Furthermore and most importantly, the majority of Ashkenazi Jews are innocent and not part of this network. Check the facts out for yourself first, this article is designed to inform people who the enemy is, not single out people of a particular race or people with a particular surname, who may have nothing to do with this Rothschild criminal network.

Timeline of the Rothschild family