The blatant rip-off thread

[Wonderbread 5,000+ posts]

Does Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby/Queen - Under Pressure count?

 

[Rmsanger 10+ year member]

Uncle Luke and Lil Zane ripped off the old lolli pop song.

 

[qutorial 10+ year member]

Does Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby/Queen - Under Pressure count?

Big time. There was a lot of talk about him being a rip-off artist when he released that.

 

[bonesninja 5,000+ posts]

Thats a great beat and that song would completely **** if it didn't have that beat so i think we can let that rip off be okay //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. The only one i can think of is the song by will smith "just the two of us" i can't think of who sings the old version of that song but they play it on our radio station at work all the time(easy listening station) im sure guantlet knows the artist //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

straight old school tune man originally done by grover washington

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but once music is published, does it not become part of teh public domain of information? I don't believe artists need to credited nor have their permission given for sampling or covers. What makes these songs rip offs? Is it the fact that a sample has been used? Or a cover even?

The masters are copyrighted. When you get sample clearance, you have to pay for access to DAT's of the masters. For example, Ghostface Killah - Holla samples The Delfonics - La La Means I Love You, and Kanye West - Through The Wire samples Chaka Khan - Through The Fire, and both artists got permission and paid for access to the masters.

It's much different with rock though, since with a little tuning of your guitar you can reproduce the meter and chord progression perfectly. The "melody" or "rhythm" is copyrighted, and it's up to a judge to determine if an artist stole it from another without permission, in which case they have to pay royalties along with some other fees. Garbage - Push It sampled the Beach Boys - Don't Worry Baby, and they just asked Brian Wilson for permission rather than trying to gain sample clearance through legal means, and he gave them the ok.

Then you can get into the world of interpolations, where it sounds like an artist ripped off another artist, but it's not noticeable enough to sue over. For example, Sublime - What I Got and The Beatles - Lady Madonna, or Eagles - Hotel California and Jethro Tull - We Used To Know. They sound similar, but it's nearly impossible to prove they knowingly stole the melody/rhythm/bassline/etc.

Does Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby/Queen - Under Pressure count?

Yep. Queen sued and they settled out of court.

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

Yep. Queen sued and they settled out of court.

I thought that it was David Bowie?

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

It was a David Bowie and Queen collaboration for the Grosse Point Blank soundtrack.

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

Ah, gotcha!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

straight old school tune man originally done by grover washington

Grover Washington played saxophone on it and did back-up vocals.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Does Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby/Queen - Under Pressure count?

Yep. Queen sued and they settled out of court.

I was watching VH1 or something a while back, and they (one of the band members of Queen) said the Vanilla Ice was actually extremely nice and polite about it, and apologized and paid them every cent they were owed.

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, he was nice and polite about it once it went to court. Before that he was steadfast in his belief that they weren't the same.

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

Vanilla Ice will perform live at a resturaunt, around the corner fom my house in a week.

 

[Wonderbread 5,000+ posts]

Jennifer Lopez sampled the Beatnuts in that crapfest Jenny from the Block. No permission, no lawsuit that I know of either.

 

[spuninsocal 10+ year member]

Lil jon - Throw it up/ Requiem of a Dream?

Yeah I cought that too. Brings back the movie, when you hear it. Sorta cought me off gaurd.

 

[spuninsocal 10+ year member]

It was a David Bowie and Queen collaboration for the Grosse Point Blank soundtrack.

Grosse Point Blank was a great movie. The soundtrack ices the cake.