Depends what you want. They are really meant for lows on a daily application. So for people who really like C&S music and things like that, they are also pretty low distortion and well designed in that regard. There is some issues with the surround coming off on some of them because of the glue not sticking to some compound in the surrounds , but again, I think that's more a burping issue and a 2x over rated issue. I haven't used them personally though, this is just what I have heard from others and what I have inferred myself, from what I've seen of them. I'd imagine in a small to medium sized ported box tuned low on near rated power they'd have no issues.. I think they are just a bit less abuse proof due to the surround issue than the older stuff is.