subwoofer break in??? HELP!!!

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

it is ok not everyone know everything thats why u asked was to learn //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[thericanballer 10+ year member]

it is ok not everyone know everything thats why u asked was to learn //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

thanks for the good attitude lol

 

[Toxic Tuan 10+ year member]

yah i read everything, but wouldnt tighter suspension make it louder. for example, the re mt, tight *** suspension, loud as hell. so if you loosen it up wouldnt it make it less loud

Let me clarify this up for you. With some suspensions such as the RE MT, the spider materials fatigue causing a lower score...SPL wise. Also, with a tighter suspension would generally mean a higher FS, hence contributing with the resonance of the vehicle and attain the louder number. Once, the suspension has broken in, the FS typically drops and allows the woofer to play better lower frequencies. The trade off is SPL in terms of vehicle resonance.

One the other hand, companies such as Digital Designs uses a higher grade spider that does not fatigue. In this case, the subwoofer will be louder with more excursion as it is being broken in.

Let me know if that clarifies it. If not, ask more questions.

Tuan

 

[thericanballer 10+ year member]

Let me clarify this up for you. With some suspensions such as the RE MT, the spider materials fatigue causing a lower score...SPL wise. Also, with a tighter suspension would generally mean a higher FS, hence contributing with the resonance of the vehicle and attain the louder number. Once, the suspension has broken in, the FS typically drops and allows the woofer to play better lower frequencies. The trade off is SPL in terms of vehicle resonance.
One the other hand, companies such as Digital Designs uses a higher grade spider that does not fatigue. In this case, the subwoofer will be louder with more excursion as it is being broken in.

Let me know if that clarifies it. If not, ask more questions.

Tuan

i no your going to slap me for this question, what does fs do. tc sounds says something bout it allowing it to play lower. second, your explanation helps but does that mean that subs with softer spiders are louder? i thought that subs with soft spiders were sq

 

[SSS 18734 5,000+ posts]

"fs" doesn't do anything per say... it's a term for the measurement of the resonany frequency of the driver. You'll notice that many subs designed for HT use have a lower fs, which typically means they are capable of playing lower, with a more linear frequency response. Most SPL subs have a relatively high fs because they are not designed for that flat, long-range extension.

 

[thericanballer 10+ year member]

"fs" doesn't do anything per say... it's a term for the measurement of the resonany frequency of the driver. You'll notice that many subs designed for HT use have a lower fs, which typically means they are capable of playing lower, with a more linear frequency response. Most SPL subs have a relatively high fs because they are not designed for that flat, long-range extension.

THAT made sense. thanks. so the lower the fs the lower the notes and spl and the ht is for lows.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

fs is the free air natural resonating frequency of the sub. so far the explanations given are very accurate.

as for being polite you sir are very welcome. i hate flamers and try not to do it unless someone else starts and even then it still takes a bit lolz.

the only problems with this site are so much misinformation, useless flaming and alot of brand bashing and nutthugging.

 

[thericanballer 10+ year member]

fs is the free air natural resonating frequency of the sub. so far the explanations given are very accurate.
as for being polite you sir are very welcome. i hate flamers and try not to do it unless someone else starts and even then it still takes a bit lolz.

the only problems with this site are so much misinformation, useless flaming and alot of brand bashing and nutthugging.

so it means the frequencies a sub is capable of producing at free air?

yah there are a lot of douche bags too lol. and bout the brand bashing, i believe sony is a great brand lmao.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

in theory yes the idea is to tune at or around the fs for the flatest response slightly up for bigger peaks. in ht tuning really low is the idea. some subs can be tuned bvelow the fs some can't

sony used to make great sq stuff when they were still japanese produced.

 

[IMOVeCHICKENS! 10+ year member]

wait, ive noticed that when ive broken in subs, theyre louder than when i first got them tho.... whats the explanation

wtf?

 

[ABNgang 10+ year member]

Type R's dont need to be broken in correct?

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

nope

 

[thorshammer1 10+ year member]

I have seen TL results consistantly that confirm I get louder as my spiders become looser.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/sneaky.gif.7189749b3a3f769e8815b47e8ae87f88.gif

 

[Toxic Tuan 10+ year member]

I have seen TL results consistantly that confirm I get louder as my spiders become looser.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/sneaky.gif.7189749b3a3f769e8815b47e8ae87f88.gif

This comment is not meant to be direct to you Thor, but for the general.

They indeed are with some spiders and not so much with others. Second and more importantly, it's really relative to the application.

My results from SPL:

Kicker Solo X, RE MT, RE SX, Shocker Sigs, Atomic APX

I loose about 1.0-2.0db from the first burp to about the 10th burp at 55-65 hz. However, with SUV's with a lower resonant frequencies, MT's gets louder as it's broken in and reaching Fs closer to the vehicle's resonance and closer to the tuning frequency of the box.

Daily application: frequency is even much lower.