something WEIRD about the movement in my subs!! READ

[Xprime4 10+ year member]

you sure it 'wangs', you mean move or loud? You shouldnt really hear 17hz. Also just because he says its a 17hz tone doesnt mean its 17hz ONLY. Also a ssf isn not a 100% cut on anything under what its set at, its a gradual roll off.

all I hear is the box unloading. I asked Snoopdan what sweep he was using on that part of the song and he tells me 17hz.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

In a ported enclosure, the speaker will not move much at all at and around tuning. If it moves less 10hz above your expected tuning, then the tuning frequency is off, especially when you have decent excursion around your expected tuning.
My current sub moves less at 22hz than it does at 60hz.

Am I missing something? 22hz is a slower frequency than 60hz is 22 cycles per second vs 60 per second ? right? so wouldn't anything do that, regardless of the enclosure?

please enlighten me cuz now I am totally confused lolz.

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

all I hear is the box unloading. I asked Snoopdan what sweep he was using on that part of the song and he tells me 17hz.

ok i get it , like i said its cause a ssf is a gradual roll, so you will still pick it up

 

[bass_lover1 10+ year member]

Am I missing something? 22hz is a slower frequency than 60hz is 22 cycles per second vs 60 per second ? right? so wouldn't anything do that, regardless of the enclosure?please enlighten me cuz now I am totally confused lolz.

He means the suspension is moving less, not that it's moving slower.

And no, 22hz isn't "slower" than 60hz, you REALLY need to go back to 6th grade science class.

To clarify, because my statements sound somewhat contradictory:

Yes, at lower frequencies, the suspension is moving slower, when relative to higher frequencies, however that does NOT mean that 22hz travels slower than 60hz. The speed of sound is a constant, and changes depending on through the medium which sound travels.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

so then this is wrong? :

One hertz simply means "one cycle per second" (typically that which is being counted is a complete cycle); 100 Hz means "one hundred cycles per second", and so on.

that tells me that 1 Hz is moving slower than 100 Hz

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

He means the suspension is moving less, not that it's moving slower.

And no, 22hz isn't "slower" than 60hz, you REALLY need to go back to 6th grade science class.

To clarify, because my statements sound somewhat contradictory:

Yes, at lower frequencies, the suspension is moving slower, when relative to higher frequencies, however that does NOT mean that 22hz travels slower than 60hz.

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[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

no it doesnt move slower it just moves less

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

less movement is related with power not Hz but moving slower is exactly dependant on the Hz. go watch ur subs at 30 Hz vs 100Hz and tell me the difference in the speed they move. i just went and looked to make sure at the explanation of it just to be sure.

Hz is a cyclic rate 1 hz moves 1 time per second to create 1 cycle and 30 Hz moves 30 times per second ect.... 110 voltage in your house ( in the USA) moves at 60 Hz meaning 60 times (cycles) per second.

 

[bass_lover1 10+ year member]

He means the suspension is moving less, not that it's moving slower.
And no, 22hz isn't "slower" than 60hz, you REALLY need to go back to 6th grade science class.

To clarify, because my statements sound somewhat contradictory:

Yes, at lower frequencies, the suspension is moving slower, when relative to higher frequencies, however that does NOT mean that 22hz travels slower than 60hz.

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Are you seriously that ignorant?

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

also the frequency (Hz) determines what you hear, i.e. 30 Hz is slower than say 100 Hz so 30 is a lower tone and 100 is higher to due how fast the speaker is moving!!!! you obviously know less than me which is sad, because I had to look it up to make sure I was correct before I shot my mouth off. maybe next time you should do the same.

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

so then this is wrong? :One hertz simply means "one cycle per second" (typically that which is being counted is a complete cycle); 100 Hz means "one hundred cycles per second", and so on.

that tells me that 1 Hz is moving slower than 100 Hz

The sub is not reaching the same excursion as it does at 60hz as it does at 22hz off the same power.

less movement is related with power not Hz but moving slower is exactly dependant on the Hz. go watch ur subs at 30 Hz vs 100Hz and tell me the difference in the speed they move. i just went and looked to make sure at the explanation of it just to be sure.
Hz is a cyclic rate 1 hz moves 1 time per second to create 1 cycle and 30 Hz moves 30 times per second ect.... 110 voltage in your house ( in the USA) moves at 60 Hz meaning 60 times (cycles) per second.

He isn't arguing hertz, he's arguing the movement of the cone in terms of linear excursion. :facepalm:

You're really dense.

Oh, and you can have a faster suspension at 22hz than at 60hz. It doesn't mean it changes the frequency. It just reacts faster. Still 22 cycles / second. But the cycles happen a lot quicker.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

so you really think that 20 Hz moves just as fast as 60 Hz? wow some people cant read for shit lolz

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

The sub is not reaching the same excursion as it does at 60hz as it does at 22hz off the same power.


He isn't arguing hertz, he's arguing the movement of the cone in terms of linear excursion. :facepalm:

You're really dense.

Oh, and you can have a faster suspension at 22hz than at 60hz. It doesn't mean it changes the frequency. It just reacts faster. Still 22 cycles / second. But the cycles happen a lot quicker.

if they happen quicker then the freq changed it wouldnt be 22 anymore if it is happenening faster! which was my argument not how quick it reactes on the suspension.

how can 22 times per second be faster on 1 spekaer and not another and still be 22 Hz?

we were arguing over him saying 20 Hz was moving faster than 60 Hz. which is impossible from what I just read in the encyclopedia. so if you can explain it or show me somewhere valid i can read it?

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

how can 22 times per second be faster on 1 spekaer and not another and still be 22 Hz?
we were arguing over him saying 20 Hz was moving faster than 60 Hz. which is impossible from what I just read in the encyclopedia. so if you can explain it or show me somewhere valid i can read it?

The 20hz states that any anchor point on the cone will reach point A and point B 20 times each.

It does not state the speed in which it reaches point A and point B.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

now that i understand. your saying that the response happens quicker due to suspension but he said faster which was just a misstatement. there is a dif in faster response and faster movememnt like he said so I am still correct and you just proved it thank you.