So who is more annoying?

[naughtyca 10+ year member]

Anyone who argues over the internet once it becomes more than a debate. Especially when it's over whose average car is better. I mean ****, it's all opinion, who cares. But, like I said, informed debate is okay. Just not "Your ******* Taurus has nothing on my Saturn you *****. My mom could **** your car in any race."

i totally agree, people shold just comment on equipment they have used

 

[supereikenator 10+ year member]

which the VVME actually was good until they raised the prices. not sure why you keep on commenting bad stuff on somethings you have never even tried or used or even seen, i actually have a vvme on my wifes car for $60 it works pretty good.
your just stuck on your name brand and if its not a name brand its not good and yes C2 audio is beefier read the specs

Threatcon Sub 12" 600watt $129

C2 Audio Threatcon-2

Specifications:

12" Threatcon-2 Subwoofer

600 Watts RMS

Available in Dual 4 Ohm and Dual 2 Ohm

Dual 2 Ohm: Threatcon-2 12d2

Dual 4 Ohm: Threatcon-2 12d4

3" Copper 4 Layer Voice Coil

Double Stacked 160 oz Magnet

High Current Flat Woven Tinsel Leads

Dual Spider Pack

Dual Stitched Non Pressed Paper Cone-

with Mid Excursion Foam Surround

Enclosure Recommendations:

Sealed: 1.0 - 1.25 ft^3

Ported: 1.5 - 2.0 ft^3 @ 35hzSealed: 2.0 - 2.50 ft^3

Ported: 3.0 - 4.0 ft^3 @ 35hz

T/S Parameters:

FS: 36.7HZ

VAS: 40.9 DM3

QES: .44

QTS: .40

BL: 16.8

MMS: 167.7G

SENS: 91.5 DB

XMAX: 28 MM

Woofer Dimensions:

EXT DIA: 12.48"

CUT OUT DIA: 11.18"

MOUNT DEPTH: 5.82"

I don't mind the sub, I think it looks great, but you dump that thing everywhere, that's why people are getting bothered by it. Lay off the paste button and just suggest like I do with Ascendant Audio and my other brand boners.

 

[supereikenator 10+ year member]

i totally agree, people shold just comment on equipment they have used

I agree there. Unless it's a company like Pyramid or BOSS, most people don't use them because it's known that they are awful.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[naughtyca 10+ year member]

I don't mind the sub, I think it looks great, but you dump that thing everywhere, that's why people are getting bothered by it. Lay off the paste button and just suggest like I do with Ascendant Audio and my other brand boners.

I actually love for people to use pictures and specs when suggesting, its easier to see and compare, most people we suggest to does not know the equipment we are suggesting and pictures, specs and even videos says a lot just my 2 cents

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

which the VVME actually was good until they raised the prices. not sure why you keep on commenting bad stuff on somethings you have never even tried or used or even seen, i actually have a vvme on my wifes car for $60 it works pretty good.
your just stuck on your name brand and if its not a name brand its not good and yes C2 audio is beefier read the specs

Threatcon Sub 12" 600watt $129

C2 Audio Threatcon-2

Specifications:

12" Threatcon-2 Subwoofer

600 Watts RMS

Available in Dual 4 Ohm and Dual 2 Ohm

Dual 2 Ohm: Threatcon-2 12d2

Dual 4 Ohm: Threatcon-2 12d4

3" Copper 4 Layer Voice Coil

Double Stacked 160 oz Magnet

High Current Flat Woven Tinsel Leads

Dual Spider Pack

Dual Stitched Non Pressed Paper Cone-

with Mid Excursion Foam Surround

Enclosure Recommendations:

Sealed: 1.0 - 1.25 ft^3

Ported: 1.5 - 2.0 ft^3 @ 35hzSealed: 2.0 - 2.50 ft^3

Ported: 3.0 - 4.0 ft^3 @ 35hz

T/S Parameters:

FS: 36.7HZ

VAS: 40.9 DM3

QES: .44

QTS: .40

BL: 16.8

MMS: 167.7G

SENS: 91.5 DB

XMAX: 28 MM

Woofer Dimensions:

EXT DIA: 12.48"

CUT OUT DIA: 11.18"

MOUNT DEPTH: 5.82"

You are dumd. vvme is good? Thats why the surronds seperate from the cones. You ask me how I can put down something I've never used, how can you put up something you have never used? I'm not stuck on name brand. I'm stuck on what works, what leads the industry. Its call top shelf for a reason. If you ever tried it you would see my point. Keep shopping in the bargin section where one pant leg is shorter then the other

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

I actually love for people to use pictures and specs when suggesting, its easier to see and compare, most people we suggest to does not know the equipment we are suggesting and pictures, specs and even videos says a lot just my 2 cents

Ok I'm going to start posting BOSS sub specs... They are beast on paper. Better then any DDZ made

 

[naughtyca 10+ year member]

Ok I'm going to start posting BOSS sub specs... They are beast on paper. Better then any DDZ made

I didnt know you run them before, which one did you run? can you put a review on the review section?

 

[naughtyca 10+ year member]

You are dumd. vvme is good? Thats why the surronds seperate from the cones. You ask me how I can put down something I've never used, how can you put up something you have never used? I'm not stuck on name brand. I'm stuck on what works, what leads the industry. Its call top shelf for a reason. If you ever tried it you would see my point. Keep shopping in the bargin section where one pant leg is shorter then the other

ones that actually leads the industry are Kicker and Rockfords keep your industry rating straight.

 

[myjaja 10+ year member]

Ok I'm going to start posting BOSS sub specs... They are beast on paper. Better then any DDZ made

I heard boss phantom subs can break windshields. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif

 

[naughtyca 10+ year member]

You are dumd. vvme is good? Thats why the surronds seperate from the cones. You ask me how I can put down something I've never used, how can you put up something you have never used? I'm not stuck on name brand. I'm stuck on what works, what leads the industry. Its call top shelf for a reason. If you ever tried it you would see my point. Keep shopping in the bargin section where one pant leg is shorter then the other

If you own a VVME you will know that its the gasket that comes off which is $10 fix from PSI and not the surround, this is the stupid sh it I was talking about, you keep on saying equipment are garbage when you don't know anything about it. you pretend you know everything and you get pi ssed when you get caught in a lie. like when you said AP amps only last for a couple of weeks.

I have VVME my wife has a 12 inch bought for $60 bucks, so if i were you i would STFU on something you never owned or even seen.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

If you own a VVME you will know that its the gasket that comes off which is $10 fix from PSI and not the surround, this is the stupid sh it I was talking about, you keep on saying equipment are garbage when you don't know anything about it. you pretend you know everything and you get pi ssed when you get caught in a lie. like when you said AP amps only last for a couple of weeks.
I have VVME my wife has a 12 inch bought for $60 bucks, so if i were you i would STFU on something you never owned or even seen.

I have a freind that runs nothing but vvme and he has to fix the surrounds on every one he sells. He sells them out of a storage unit for a profit to dumb suckers on craigslist. I dont get **** ed about anything, how mant cases of DOA AP amps where spreading around the web? I dont know everything, far from it. I never said the C2 was garbage, its unknown what it is. Could be great could be crap.

 

[naughtyca 10+ year member]

I have a freind that runs nothing but vvme and he has to fix the surrounds on every one he sells. He sells them out of a storage unit for a profit to dumb suckers on craigslist. I dont get **** ed about anything, how mant cases of DOA AP amps where spreading around the web? I dont know everything, far from it. I never said the C2 was garbage, its unknown what it is. Could be great could be crap.

how do we know your friend didnt abuse those subs since they are only $60. Look at FLSPL a lot of people ran these VVME.

regarding AP i am not sure how you can calculate accurately when you dont even know how many are actually being sold? are you really that dumb? if 10000 ap ams are sold in 1 year and you heard 10 are DOA is that a bad number? like i said earlier just talk to something you only know of not dumb assumptions since assumption are the mother of all f uck ups! and you are heading that way

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

how do we know your friend didnt abuse those subs since they are only $60. Look at FLSPL a lot of people ran these VVME.
regarding AP i am not sure how you can calculate accurately when you dont even know how many are actually being sold? are you really that dumb? if 10000 ap ams are sold in 1 year and you heard 10 are DOA is that a bad number? like i said earlier just talk to something you only know of not dumb assumptions since assumption are the mother of all f uck ups! and you are heading that way

Do your thing man. Get some real gear and you will see the light. Until then you wont know what you are missing. hell you might not even know if you hear it yourself

 

[naughtyca 10+ year member]

Do your thing man. Get some real gear and you will see the light. Until then you wont know what you are missing. hell you might not even know if you hear it yourself

you keep on assuming? This will be your downfall? and that is not an assumption.

 

[naughtyca 10+ year member]

Here's a perfect example, the guy was thinking of buying a pyramid for $65 and pretty set on it and was looking for an amp, why would you suggest Incriminator audio, Digital Designs, Sundown that cost 3x, DDTC are you really that dumb?

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwoofers/575963-would-good-setup.html

 

[winkychevelle 10+ year member]

Here's a perfect example, the guy was thinking of buying a pyramid for $65 and pretty set on it and was looking for an amp, why would you suggest Incriminator audio, Digital Designs, Sundown that cost 3x, DDTC are you really that dumb?
http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwoofers/575963-would-good-setup.html]http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwoofers/575963-would-good-setup.html[/

You are also making assumptions that he hasn't messed with the equipment you keep talking about. Coming from a pro installer I've seen and worked with a wide variety of subs and while I am partial to certain companies I know what I replace often in cars, what I like out of the grouping, and what sub will come back to me in a week if I install it.

I had a local shop back home that push Pyle lanzar legacy etc. made a bet with them that my 1000 Dollar system would meter higher than anything they have to put up against me

They came back with some Pyle red label squares and a pair of 3600w Pyle driver amps. Cost was bout the same theirs be a lil bit cheaper but on the meter I was 11db higher with 1 dd2510, 1 power bass 1500 and a 1.27 cube boxed tuned to 40hz with a 4 inch aero. They pulled a 137 I pulled a 148

 

[naughtyca 10+ year member]

Here's a perfect example, the guy was thinking of buying a pyramid for $65 and pretty set on it and was looking for an amp, why would you suggest Incriminator audio, Digital Designs, Sundown that cost 3x, DDTC are you really that dumb?
http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwoofers/575963-would-good-setup.html]http://www.caraudio.com/forums/subwoofers/575963-would-good-setup.html[/

You are also making assumptions that he hasn't messed with the equipment you keep talking about. Coming from a pro installer I've seen and worked with a wide variety of subs and while I am partial to certain companies I know what I replace often in cars, what I like out of the grouping, and what sub will come back to me in a week if I install it.

I had a local shop back home that push Pyle lanzar legacy etc. made a bet with them that my 1000 Dollar system would meter higher than anything they have to put up against me

They came back with some Pyle red label squares and a pair of 3600w Pyle driver amps. Cost was bout the same theirs be a lil bit cheaper but on the meter I was 11db higher with 1 dd2510, 1 power bass 1500 and a 1.27 cube boxed tuned to 40hz with a 4 inch aero. They pulled a 137 I pulled a 148

you really think these people asking for budget set up will care with they will meter and what DB they will have? these are new to the car audio world. All i ask is listen and respect their budget and give them the best bang for what ever their budget is.

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

Naughtyca and that **** c2 threatcon ad it in every fn thread

It does get old and get's close to vendor issues, very RD-esq with the one sub woofer solution for everyone.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Naughty I don't run that stuff cause I always do my research before I buy. I do have many friends that had that stuff until they meet people with better. They always say they wish they meet us before they wasted so much money.

RLguy I'm starting to question your idea of quality when you say things that hold many titles in SQ and SPL are middle of the road. You sound like a idiot which makes your opinion worthless. You say you spend 10 grand a week in audio? Lol what do you have to show for it buddy? I would expect world records.

 

[winkychevelle 10+ year member]

you really think these people asking for budget set up will care with they will meter and what DB they will have? these are new to the car audio world. All i ask is listen and respect their budget and give them the best bang for what ever their budget is.

I respect people's budget but before recommending junk ill suggest they ace a bit longer. And they might not be chasing numbers but if I could get twice as loud for 50 bucks more I woul rather that I try and stay out of the budget threads because of this. And recently I only replied in a middle ground thread.

Sure I've been griping bout you because you are pushing people to get a sub u know nothing about. To me it seems like your are getting paid to rep them seeing how much you suggest them. I don't mind c2 as a company seeing as I know nothing about them but I can't recommend them till I have either seen them perform in person or had several close friends say that are awesome budget subs