Selling items idea

[jacka 10+ year member]

I wanna try to propose an idea for selling items. Here it goes: Buyer A wants to by an amplifier from Seller B. They bargain back and forth and finally agree on a price. Here's where the idea comes in. We have an agreement thread next the the buying/selling thread. The purpose of this is to list all the transactions that have been done and also, it might help further secure the transaction. We should also possibly have a feedback number under our post # in our avatar. This would all be controlled by mods of course. Both people will state all actions taken in their agreement post, with the item that is being sold and a link to the selling post, and they will add posts to the agreement thread such as "I have sent the money today via XXX," "We have both agreed on this price," "I have received my item today and am satisfied," etc, to keep us up with their transaction. Once both people have stated they are both satisfied with the transaction, agreement thread mods can look it over and award feedback to them both. Of course, this would add a lot to the list of to-do's for the mods, which is understanding because they would have to look through so many posts a day. However, I think it would be a good step in helping to prevent scams.

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[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

I'd be in favor of a feedback system, like what's found on SIN and other forums...but not to have the moderation staff in charge of it.

When users can learn to post things in the correct sections and not post dump on other people's classifieds, then maybe we'll have enough time to implement something like that.

 

[kpozr2 10+ year member]

how about buyer A and Seller B both send their money/item for sale to MIDDLE MAN C. then when both are recieved the middle man C (trusted mod) sends the item to the buyer and the money to the seller>? no scamming, the middle man can dish out the feedback.

 

[mtdewelf 10+ year member]

how about buyer A and Seller B both send their money/item for sale to MIDDLE MAN C. then when both are recieved the middle man C (trusted mod) sends the item to the buyer and the money to the seller>? no scamming, the middle man can dish out the feedback.

we already have ideas like this floating around. main problem is double shipping. also if seller sends defected product, it's still defected, middle man probably won't be able to test every item that comes through. Might be able to inspect but to actually hook up and test might be tough.

 

[kpozr2 10+ year member]

ya it was just an idea. i got scammed out of 500 bones on ebay a couuple years ago on a snowboard package. no more egay for me.

 

[Beerdrnkr 5,000+ posts]

how about buyer A and Seller B both send their money/item for sale to MIDDLE MAN C. then when both are recieved the middle man C (trusted mod) sends the item to the buyer and the money to the seller>? no scamming, the middle man can dish out the feedback.

The only thing with that would be that you'd have to pay for shipping twice. I guess for people that really do not want to get scammed that could be a good option.

 

[Beerdrnkr 5,000+ posts]

sorry too late.

 

[supraman1379 10+ year member]

I think its a good idea. I wish I had thought about that. lol

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

ConcernedMember and myself are currently working on an idea almost exactly like what is being proposed in this thread. The main difference being that the seller is going to ship whatever item is being sold directly to the buyer rather than the 3rd party.

The only thing the 3rd party will do is withhold the money from the seller until the buyer has verified that the item being traded is as it was advertised to be in the For Sale thread in which it was described originally. Once the buyer has verified that they did, in fact, receive what they believed to have been buying then the seller gets paid and /story.

There are a lot of logistics to get sorted out which is why CM and I have not approached the moderation staff and Goob with our proposal just yet but rest assured there is something just like this in the works //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[jacka 10+ year member]

yes, i agree that the 3rd party is not needed also, as proposed.

 

[vetkilr 10+ year member]

ConcernedMember and myself are currently working on an idea almost exactly like what is being proposed in this thread. The main difference being that the seller is going to ship whatever item is being sold directly to the buyer rather than the 3rd party.
The only thing the 3rd party will do is withhold the money from the seller until the buyer has verified that the item being traded is as it was advertised to be in the For Sale thread in which it was described originally. Once the buyer has verified that they did, in fact, receive what they believed to have been buying then the seller gets paid and /story.

There are a lot of logistics to get sorted out which is why CM and I have not approached the moderation staff and Goob with our proposal just yet but rest assured there is something just like this in the works //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Hell Kinda flawd dont ya think....

I know I want my money before I ship anything period.Im not gonna ship a product cross country hope the person on good faith hooks it up right or does whatever right and then decides to pay me.

Pay First...........Selling 101.

Ship second.......Basic buying 101.

People been doin this for yrs people.

There needs to be a Certain stucture for sellin here.No pics.No Sale.PERIOD. People need to know what they are buying.

DOA needs to be posted right away on the board and also via pm so both parties can fix the problem,hopefully same thread that it was sold it so its easy for both to find.

Theres alot of youth on the board so patience needs to be shown by both parties as lifes lessons arise as all things get better with time and work themselves out.

It should be first come first serve buying unless that party doent have the funds available right away and then it goes to next inline,not open biddin like Ebay with paypal info being posted in forsale threads sayin first to pay gets it.Why,cause more then one person pays and now multiple site members can have lost funds/ lost friendships/ harbor grudges and makes for a bad envirment all together.

My .02:

 

[prochobo 10+ year member]

How about we start using heatware.com? It's free and it keeps track of feedback like ebay, except it's for forum trades and completely legit.

For example, here's my heat

http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=41890

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

Hell Kinda flawd dont ya think....

No, not at all. Continue reading and you'll see why //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I know I want my money before I ship anything period.Im not gonna ship a product cross country hope the person on good faith hooks it up right or does whatever right and then decides to pay me.
Pay First...........Selling 101.

Ship second.......Basic buying 101.

People been doin this for yrs people.

There needs to be a Certain stucture for sellin here.No pics.No Sale.PERIOD. People need to know what they are buying.

DOA needs to be posted right away on the board and also via pm so both parties can fix the problem,hopefully same thread that it was sold it so its easy for both to find.

Theres alot of youth on the board so patience needs to be shown by both parties as lifes lessons arise as all things get better with time and work themselves out.

It should be first come first serve buying unless that party doent have the funds available right away and then it goes to next inline,not open biddin like Ebay with paypal info being posted in forsale threads sayin first to pay gets it.Why,cause more then one person pays and now multiple site members can have lost funds/ lost friendships harbor grudges and makes for a bad envirment all together.

My .02:

For the majority of members here this service that ConcernedMember and I are proposing will be completely unnecessary. The underlying wish is that something of this sort would eventually become completely unnecessary in 100% of all transactions borne of a For Sale thread in our Classifieds subforum. There are the odd exceptions, sadly, and it is for said exceptions that a 3rd party escrow-type service could become useful.
Let's take NoodPoopler for example: Most people here, after all the glowing exposure his trading practices have gained him over the past weeks, wouldn't even for a moment consider buying a bloody thing from him, period. But, always hoping that anyone can change let's say he turned a new leaf over in his life and somehow was made to understand how things really should work. We'll say for the sake of argument Nood wants to sell a widgit. He makes a FS thread and provides very clear pictures of said widgit and gives a 100% accurate description of his widgit. Someone happens along and really wants to buy that widgit but Nood's reputation as an incredibly bad trading partner precedes him and the potential buyer is really unsure (understandably so) about doing business with him. In steps the 3rd party to hold the money until the buyer has received the widgit and has the opportunity to verify that it is exactly as advertised in the FS thread created for it and then, and only then, Nood would get paid for the widgit.

The proposed service plays no part in transactions beginning with established, ethical trading partners. As mentioned in the Ethical Traders Vs Pondscum Traders thread I made if you were to need some wiring/related accessories talk to FRITO. If you need some Rainbow components talk to 6spdcoupe. If you need an entry-level USAmps amplifier talk to flakko. Certainly those three are by far not the only honest sellers on the forum but I use those as examples that most people would already be familiar with even if they've never made a purchase from them (Of those three FRITO is the only one I have dealt with directly) My point is that you could safely assume that sending any of those gentlemen your money won't result in you getting screwed. A 3rd Party service would be a complete waste of time in those instances. Because of the nature of the creature known as "human," however, there will likely always remain those exceptions to the rule that an escrow kind of arrangement could be incredibly useful if for no other reason than peace of mind ~ which in some cases can be a priceless commodity.

 

[prochobo 10+ year member]

Yep, you'd better find someone to be trustworthy and willing to do the job. Oh yeah, nothing's free these days.

I have thought of making an online "escrow" site for trades on forums like these. Man, I would make a ton of money.

 

[vetkilr 10+ year member]

OK agreed.

I thought you were talking about the seller waitin on the money til said buyer approves of said product.

I dont see a problem with a 3rd party havin the money even gettin say 1% to handle it so that noone on here gets screwd over.And the buyer should pay the 1% and not have a problem doin so cause he knows that he will not have a doa or said product of unstated nature.