SB Acoustics SB17NRX35C/ Vifa DX25TG05/ Need Help

[Millertime1028 10+ year member]

Allright so , I will be going active fairly soon with the 880 but I am in a dilema with which speakers I should run . Im currently running Pioneer Premier 520PRS's passive . Ive been looking to get a bit louder and will be making fiberglass pods for whichever drivers I get next . Now , I know PRS's sound great ran active when crossed around 3- 3.5k hz which is what these drivers I have linked seem would seem to like

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8302

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1115

.. Now I would like try to keep the Pioneers in the doors as they are(midbass is excellent IMO) but would also like to use (2) SB acoustic mids (1) Vifa tweet per door in the fiberglassed pods . Now even though it seems im not one for imaging, dynamics, depth, and all good stuff that IS my MAIN concern. Staying well imaged while have exceptional clarity at higher volumes . Do I get rid of the PRS's all together and just run the SB acoustic drivers/ Vifa tweets ETC... If someone has info on these drivers/tweets i have listed and is willing to help me out a little I would highly appreciate any help or info . Thanks

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[Millertime1028 10+ year member]

Anyone ??

 

[Millertime1028 10+ year member]

Any opinions ?

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

the good thing about going active is that if certain speakers aren't working out for you, then just change them out and try different ones.

 

[bose301s 5,000+ posts]

Good tweets, decent mids from what has been said. Zaph did some measurements of both of those drivers.

 

[Millertime1028 10+ year member]

hmm, yea I seen the tweet review from zaph but I couldnt find the review for the SB . I just want to make sure this will fit my needs . Just looking for pretty good SQ but able to get loud enough to keep up with the substage .. 1 comp set is not cutting it . Trying to figure out ow I will situate the driver in the truck also ..

 

[okiedokie 10+ year member]

I was looking into those tweeters as well, the Sb mids are 8ohms vs 4 ohms for the pioneers.

the sb mids are 60 watts into 8ohms.

What are your pioneer mids rms @?

How many watts are you watts per channel on your amp?

I think you should keep mids that you have already, maybe look into a more powerful amp.

maybe try out the vifa tweeters & let us know how they sound

remember placement & deadening will make the biggest difference

 

[Millertime1028 10+ year member]

Yea doors are deadened and sealed, 30-40 sq/ft on each door with acoustic foam and non hardening clay. Mids are seeing around 80 rms right now HP at 63hz/12 db slope. They are rated at 50rms . Believe me they get loud and clear but they are smalll drivers to being with and cant keep up with the substage when its at full tilt . I currently have 800rms on tap for the highs.. 400 per side . Two amps

 

[okiedokie 10+ year member]

maybe look into rianbow mids? This one is an 8inch slim

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=7195

or

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=7055

I have heard rianbows, which are nicer then the pioneers mid bass & louder.

If you do try these from woofersetc.com & you dont like it you can return to try something else out.

The same for partsexpress.com

plus they ave a pretty good warrant.

most mids cant keep up with your bass unless you go for a three way system.

I have my sub turned down right until i can get a bass knob so that i can control it.

 

[Millertime1028 10+ year member]

I wish I can fit an 8 or even 10's but I cant due to the design of the Jeep . Way to many things will get in the way if I go with a driver that big . So the biggest I can go with is around 6 1/2 mid . Thanks for listing those though . I appreciate the recommendations. Ill have to look over on DIYMA also .

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

only downside about that tweet is that the mounting flange is huge,

other than that, its an awesome speaker, i have its cousin, the xt25 ring radiator version, and they sound amazing in my car (i have 3 per side)

idk about the mid though, perhaps look in hessdawgs thread, hes selling the id oem cx64 mids for 90 shipped /pair and ive heard nothing but good about them....

 

[okiedokie 10+ year member]

make sure you know the depth as well, you can just take off your door panel roll down your window measure it from the window/glass to frame then add how your he depth of your MDF rings will be. the placement of the driver & door panel only need to be a little more than an inch.

you can also look into

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=296-410

I had a pair of the 7 but they where to deep, the upper mid was one of the best I've heard for a two way.

 

[okiedokie 10+ year member]

wow three per side I bet they are loud

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

make sure you know the depth as well, you can just take off your door panel roll down your window measure it from the window/glass to frame then add how your he depth of your MDF rings will be. the placement of the driver & door panel only need to be a little more than an inch.you can also look into

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=296-410

I had a pair of the 7 but they where to deep, the upper mid was one of the best I've heard for a two way.

hes building pods so depth shouldnt be much of an issue....

shouldnt be...

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

Yea doors are deadened and sealed, 30-40 sq/ft on each door with acoustic foam and non hardening clay. Mids are seeing around 80 rms right now HP at 63hz/12 db slope. They are rated at 50rms . Believe me they get loud and clear but they are smalll drivers to being with and cant keep up with the substage when its at full tilt . I currently have 800rms on tap for the highs.. 400 per side . Two amps

turn down your sub...