sorry man im looking for hd amps only right now. their size is a factor as well as the fact that i need two amps to run two subs. two 1000/1's would kill me on space lol. those things are massive. thanks though. ... if your interesting in buying though, im willing to sell for cash. =Dgot a 2 month old jl1000/1v2 slash with box . the sound quality of the slash and hd amps are almost nothing slash is a output beast tho