Saudi court sentences 75-year-old woman to lashes

You're right, someone just pulled "religion of peace" out of their ***, Islam is all about killing and raping women and children, sorry for not coming forward sooner.
Ancient Islam is based on violence, face it, The phrases "Realm Of Islam/Peace" and "Realm Of War" to separate Islam and everything else don't make it sound so peaceful.

 
It's not about religion. It's about fundamentalist savages who behave like animals. Using any "religion" as an excuse for thier barbarism is just an excuse. They're just neaderthals.

There is no difference between the saudi leaders and the ayahtolas of iran. In fact their worse, they're a monarchy in addition to fundamentalist savages.

They need to pass unto the dustbin of history.

 
Once again, numb-nuts...this is like looking at the KKK as an accurate representation of christianity...your ignorant *** is too busy swallowing your head to see that
First, this is a false analogy. The KKK was not nearly as motivated by religion as they were by a racial hatred that had no biblical basis at all (you'd be much better off comparing to the inquisitors). Second, even if this analogy was valid its not like it matters because the KKK has been almost completely eliminated, while there are millions of people that want to and are practicing this interpretation of Islamic law; and moderate Muslims like yourself seem prepared to do nothing but defend this radicalism every chance you get.

Also, I think there's pretty widespread agreement over the punishment in sharia for crimes such as adultery that are based on very reasonable interpretations of the Quran and Sunnah. Which is why i was surprised to hear you say in that other thread that you think it would ever be a good thing to live under sharia.

"24:2 The woman and the man guilty of illegal ****** intercourse, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allah, if you believe in Allah and Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment. "

 
First, this is a false analogy. The KKK was not nearly as motivated by religion as they were by a racial hatred that had no biblical basis at all
And people who practice this so-called "extremist" Islam are doing things that real Islam, that Muhammad himself would have denounced and stood against...how is it that their 'biblical' basis is in any way meaningful? Other than because of ignorance?

Second, even if this analogy was valid its not like it matters because the KKK has been almost completely eliminated, while there are millions of people that want to and are practicing this interpretation of Islamic law
How does whether it's being used today or not matter? If there were no more terrorists then Islam would no longer be a bad/violent religion in the eyes of those who don't understand it? Did Christianity change when the KKK came into or dropped out of power?

and moderate Muslims like yourself seem prepared to do nothing but defend this radicalism every chance you get.
I defend Islam. I do not even recognize this "radicalism" as being Islam. I see a lot of terrible people who claim to be Islamic, and I see Islam. Just the same as a real Christian or someone who knows Christianity see's the KKK and doesn't even recognize them as being religious in any way. It is the same thing flipped, and it's incredible that so many of you still don't see that.

Also, I think there's pretty widespread agreement over the punishment in sharia for crimes such as adultery that are based on very reasonable interpretations of the Quran and Sunnah. Which is why i was surprised to hear you say in that other thread that you think it would ever be a good thing to live under sharia.
You do not understand that under Shariah law in a true Islamic country, you are only creating real government laws that outline the beliefs of the population anyway. These serve as guidelines, reminders, and preventors.

"24:2 The woman and the man guilty of illegal ****** intercourse, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allah, if you believe in Allah and Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment. "
I can think of a lot of Christians who would be glad to see a ****** or adulterer/etc be severely physically punished for these acts. To Islam, and to God (according to ANY Judeo-Christian-Islamic religion), fornication is seen as a serious crime and a serious sin, just as is murder or robbery/etc. It is only logical that these crimes be punished just as any other crime is. The fact that secular society does not feel there is anything wrong with having *** all day every day with whoever and whenever you want, does not make it automatically an ok thing. That is your opinion. Why do you get to decide what is a crime and what isn't for countries other than our own?

I think it's safe to say most Christians would like to see Christian values and Christian rules implemented into the government...so why is it so wrong for Muslims to feel the same? Just because pretty much the only country right now that has strict sharia law is also injust and corrupt, both in its use of it and its other actions separate from it, means that sharia law is the problem?

 
You do not understand that under Shariah law in a true Islamic country, you are only creating real government laws that outline the beliefs of the population anyway. These serve as guidelines, reminders, and preventors.
Got any examples of a modern country living under Shariah that behaves that way? Hint: SA is not the only country using shariah law.
I think it's safe to say most Christians would like to see Christian values and Christian rules implemented into the government...so why is it so wrong for Muslims to feel the same? Just because pretty much the only country right now that has strict sharia law is also injust and corrupt, both in its use of it and its other actions separate from it, means that sharia law is the problem?
Incorrect. Almost a billion Christians on earth, the vatican is the only Christian fundamentalist country I know of living under "Christian law".

America was founded by Chrisitians who wanted a secular gov't. They feared a religious gov't and forbid it in our Constitution.

Religion in gov't sucks donkey diks. Doesn't matter what flavor. Anyone who would try to force a religous gov't on others, especially another religion, must be fought to the death. Anything else is slavery.

 
Incorrect. Almost a billion Christians on earth, the vatican is the only Christian fundamentalist country I know of living under "Christian law".America was founded by Chrisitians who wanted a secular gov't. They feared a religious gov't and forbid it in our Constitution.

Religion in gov't sucks donkey diks. Doesn't matter what flavor. Anyone who would try to force a religous gov't on others, especially another religion, must be fought to the death. Anything else is slavery.
I didn't say there were Christian nations. But if there were a 100% christian nation of people who truly valued and followed strictly the Christian doctrines and rules, they would have absolutely no problem implementing it into their government. I have also had this arguement with Christians who are bashing on Islam because of things like sharia law, and they too have admitted they would love if this country had better moral foundations, even laws perhaps against things like marital infidelity/divorce, etc

Upon further reflection of some of the details of sharia law...I can't say I believe it should be enforced, even though I would have no problem with it, and I can easily see how people would want it to be that way. Imagine if all the things you were going to try and teach your children about this world, were already their key influences in life, and already built in to their society. Imagine a world where you dont have to worry about your children being good people, being kind to others, etc. Where you know others won't take advantage of your children or your family, etc, etc....this is what religious law attempts to achieve, and it is no mystery why massive groups of very religious people would love to see it in effect.

 
As it stands in American society, if you have a daughter, she will almost definitely be raised to value attention, men, and penis. She will be 'dating' by the time she's 12, and be having *** by 15, probably ******* dick if not getting railed as well before that. How many of you fathers out there want to know your 13-14 year old girl will probably have a dick in her mouth (assuming 15-18 year old guys think she's attractive). I would rather live in a society where even the government says this is not okay. But that's probably just because I'm an islamic extremist/religious nut.

 
It's the family's job to control the daugher, not the gov't. And I certainly don't want the priest telling me what is and is not legal with the power of the state behind him.

Massachusets used to be an established Christian state. The priest could order the sherrif to your home to arrest you for not attending sunday mass. We did away with estabished religioun because it was a horrible idea and the enemy of the people. It can only lead to abuse.

Gov't is too petty for religion. Gov't is for running sewage systems and taking out the trash. You do not need the 10 commandments to sweep the streets. Theocratic gov'ts are evil pretending to be pious.

Iran hangs young men for being gay because they wear tight t-shirts. Relgion is the excuse, they're really just evil murdering savages. They will burn in hell for thier evil. So will the saudi kings, the Islamic Peoples council, and the Taliban.

 
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