Rear Fill: Obserations...

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

For a budget set-up that will get respectably loud it's hard to beat 4 coax's and a 4 channel amp.

Not everyone is a purist and concerned with soundstage, imaging, phase, etc... They just want to crank some tunes while driving around, plain and simple.

I feel it's a disservice to steer them away. Perhaps down the road some will want to upgrade to good comps up front, but I'm betting many will be happy with what they have.

The "no rear fill Nazi's" seem MUCH more vocal then the guys who like it/run it. Not sure why that is. Try and give an unbiased opinion to the noobies looking for help.

And I do understand the desired effect of a proper front soundstage only as it will provide a much more "realistic" sound, more closely to a concert or live show. But not everyone is after that as you know.

No offense intended to anyone, so please don't take it that way. LOT of knowledgeable people on here, so just try and help when you can, even if it goes against your car audio beliefs, but just might make someone else happy.

 

[MBrock4u 10+ year member]

Very well put. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[SpasticGramps 10+ year member]

If you have a properly staged and imaged front stage I don't believe there is any need for rearfill. Spending the money on better front compents would be a much better investment IMO. Backseat passengers can enjoy a system without rearfill. How many people who ride around with you know about proper imaging/staging anyway.

Having said that there is always different strokes for different folks and different applications. You should try different things out and do whatever sounds best to you. Don't do something cause some faceless person on an internet forum told you it was "better".

 

[xploit2 10+ year member]

how many speakers are needed for a front stage?? will a nice set of components at (eg. raimbows)130watts rms each considered a front stage?? cuz some people asking if they should have rear fill or not are running theirs speakers off their HU and then i see someone replying NO U dont Need rear fill.

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

My fronts have enough potential coverage to throw a small party, so I'm definately not worried about someone 3 feet behind me.

My rear fill in the upcoming project will be alarm sirens.

 

[xploit2 10+ year member]

how many watts are you giving each side punk??

 

[MBrock4u 10+ year member]

Looks like we have lot of comments across the board here. This is all good. I don't think I ever really promote a need for rear fill It's a personal preference. I have a solid front stage with a little kick in the rear. I really like it that way. So do my friends who ride with me. It doesn't necessarly make for a better system. You can have a killer system without the rear fill. But it seems to me the non rear fill people like to shove that down our throats. Just a personal preference is all that is needed. Play with both and see what sounds best for you and your needs. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[geowick07 10+ year member]

I have read this entire thread, and all i can say is that i am going to be investing in a set of 6.5" components in the near future. I plan to leave the rear 6x8's (its a ford) in place in their stock locations, powered from the head unit, and see if i like it. If i don't like it, out they come. i think rear fill, regardless of ANY opinions stated here, should be the owners' preference. Personally, I have experience with systems with and without rear fill, and i have never really been able to come up with a clear cut I Like It, I Don't Like It answer. Totally user-dependent. Just my .02

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

I'm running 6.5" REV's off a Profile amp for rear fill. Actually more than fill as they get very loud. I run the amp trigger off a toggle switch, so when in the mood I flip the switch and instant "club" sound.

I did spend a fair amount of time in the dance clubs in the 80's and also remember when the pinnacle of car audio was a set of Jensen 6x9 triaxials in the rear deck, so maybe that's why I like loud rear fill.

But I also enjoy the much better sound produced by my front stage since they're better speakers. I have kind of the best of both worlds.......

 

[James Bang 5,000+ posts]

My fronts have enough potential coverage to throw a small party, so I'm definately not worried about someone 3 feet behind me.
My rear fill in the upcoming project will be alarm sirens.

horns. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/drool.gif.b5e863e893038027711d4402f340dad0.gif

 

[davesexplorer 10+ year member]

I guess I'm just a goofball then... I have pretty much all the items currently or in transit, but 2- 5 1/4 (one set SS, other RS) comp sets up front as well as 8" midbass's (SSMB8), and 5 1/4(RS) comps in the back. All powered from a SX900.4 and a SX700.4. I can fade it to the front if I need a stage performance, and fade it back when I have guests. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Whatever floats your boat.

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

how many watts are you giving each side punk??

about 10 watts for each horn and maybe 70 on each 6.5.... havn't messed with them in a while, and the horns were set with 20 watts and then turned down by ear so that the actually blended with the 6.5s.

it gets... loud.